One parent said the influx of permission slips is getting “out of control” and “burdensome.”
As a kid that grew up with parents that were prudish… It will fuck your life up. Completely. Entirely.
I still feel bad for the 1 kid in jr high whose parents refused to let him do the sex ed section. 13yos are assholes enough, they didn’t really need something else to use to make fun of him for.
Yep. I loved going to the library while my classmates got to watch a movie
Tangled? Or being with prudes? Jk
Well these days it’s probably either or…
Yup
yes. forever
Tangled is fucking awesome. It’s one of my favorite Disney movies. The scene where she freaks out after getting to touch grass outside and swings back and forth between elation and self-loathing for disobeying the one rule she was taught her entire life: don’t leave the tower. That scene is gold
“Your dream stinks. I was talking to her.”
The reprise of “Mother Knows Best” always gives me chills
“I never thought leopards would eat my face”
Not all of us here voted for these people, Florida’s voters are at least 40% democrats gauging from the last election, that’s hopefully grown since all of DeSantis’s bullshit, I guess we’ll see in November.
Rooting for ya, bud.
Thanks my dude.
I’m still not convinced that it’s enough to override identity politics of small people who want to feel bigger than they are.
Why not a permission slip in the beginning of the year with checkboxes for everything that might need a permission slip. Is there a requirement for them to be specific?
The requirement stems from knowing that if you aren’t explicit and specific, regressives will try to ruin your life directly and via stochastic terrorism.
But also even if you are explicit and specific, regressives will try to ruin your life directly and via stochastic terrorism.
Facts. But it explains why they’re trying. It’s really hard for most people to accept and act on the knowledge that these people operate in bad faith and are just trying to make everyone miserable enough to give up.
The only way to win is to 1) not play their game and 2) to get a critical mass of people around you to follow you instead of them. It’s like dealing with a narcissist, except there are millions of them bolstering each other and gaslighting the rest of us.
“Yes I checked the ‘movies rated from G to T’ box, but they played Strange World, and that has the gay disease in it!” /s
People are idiots, and it’s Florida. Florida has proven itself insane, so this is why they get.
You are really overestimating how far ahead these things are planned out. It would be a horrible nightmare to coordinate all of it months and months in advance.
It’s 2024. We dont need to bring ink and paper into this. Publish your syllabus online at the beginning of the year, provide a list of everything that needs parental permission for viewing, let me check them check boxes.
You have love how everyone is behind this until it becomes slightly inconvenient for them.
I’m not in Florida, but can they sign a permission slip that just includes everything.
“I, _________, do give my child permission to sign their own permission slips.”
Probably not. The whole point is to bog down the education system.
My kids school just has us sign a media permission slip once a year. Works great.
I don’t think that would cover the modern rage about anything parent
Eh, I’m in Florida and so far it hasn’t been an issue at my school. From what I’m seeing most of the outrage is bad faith anyway.
The way parents can stop this is by asking the school whether they had a license from Disney to show the movie.
The permission slips are just proof they showed the movie to a large group of people (most likely without a license, because what school has a budget for that?)
Educational purposes are fair use.
Constitutionally, the purpose of copyright laws is to promote the progress of science and the useful arts. Fair Use isn’t really an “exemption”. Fair Use is the fundamental reason why copyright is allowed to exist. The restrictions allowed by copyright law are the limited commercial exemptions from “public domain”, temporarily granted to authors and artists.
All published information is in the public domain unless a specific, copyright exemption temporarily applies to withhold it.
All published information is in the public domain unless a specific, copyright exemption temporarily applies to withhold it.
You sure about that? In the US, the creator of a work has automatic copyright over it, whether it’s published or not: https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html
If you meant something else, or there’s a modifier to your claim here that I’m not seeing, maybe you could clarify?
I am reframing the discussion as envisioned by the copyright clause in Article I, Section 8:
[Congress shall have power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
The purpose of copyright laws is to promote progress of science and art. Temporary exclusivity is the means by which Congress achieves this purpose; exclusivity is not the purpose itself.
That limited time is when an author or inventor may command exclusivity. Outside of that limited time, the work belongs to the audience, not the artist.
When we remember that it is humanity is supposed to be the ultimate beneficiary, “Fair Use” is the fundamental concept, and copyright is the exception. Copyright may exist automatically when a work is created, but that is still a specific, limited, temporary exemption.
As with most legal matters, it depends: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/index.html
Purpose and character of the use, including whether the use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes: Courts look at how the party claiming fair use is using the copyrighted work, and are more likely to find that nonprofit educational and noncommercial uses are fair. This does not mean, however, that all nonprofit education and noncommercial uses are fair and all commercial uses are not fair; instead, courts will balance the purpose and character of the use against the other factors below. Additionally, “transformative” uses are more likely to be considered fair. Transformative uses are those that add something new, with a further purpose or different character, and do not substitute for the original use of the work. Nature of the copyrighted work: This factor analyzes the degree to which the work that was used relates to copyright’s purpose of encouraging creative expression. Thus, using a more creative or imaginative work (such as a novel, movie, or song) is less likely to support a claim of a fair use than using a factual work (such as a technical article or news item). In addition, use of an unpublished work is less likely to be considered fair.
I don’t know many schools willing to bother finding out whether the use was fair.
I don’t know many schools willing to bother finding out whether the use was fair.
It is not the school’s responsibility to bother finding out. It is Disney’s responsibility, as the troll claiming copyright protections, to make the claim that it’s not fair use, and it is the court’s responsibility to determine the validity of such a claim.
Unless Disney decides to intervene, there is no question that it is fair use. Even if a copyright troll does decide to intervene, it is still probably fair use.
I agree it’s the court’s decision and that Disney will likely not bring it to court because schools have little as it is and it’d be a PR nightmare.
As to whether it actually is fair use, I also agree with “probably.”
Because of that, any school’s legal team will recommend against permission slips for Disney movies so teachers can just play them without asking for parent approval like every other school
This isn’t actually public exhibition because members of the public in general cannot attend. This is an educational purposes deal and is perfectly fine.
We’re actually discussing educational purposes and fair use in this thread:
https://lemmy.world/comment/7787391
So far, the consensus is “probably”
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