I have been supporting Lemmy recently a lot and made posts about Lemmy that got big reach. Today, sadly the reddit account through which, I moderated a lot of subs and spent time on, comes to an end. The reason was because I spammed according to reddit, but the reality is that they have censored me because I was hurting Reddit.

Asking multiple third-party app devs consider Lemmy + Made the same post here as well

I never thought this would happen, not that I didn’t completely expect it (but maybe not this soon and sudden), after all Reddit is known for censorship, and the fact that Reddit admins have absolute power over this website makes this believable. But part of me, misses that reddit account, it has been special to me, as I’ve spent countless of hours spending my personal time to moderate and improve communities that helped Reddit thrive. I moderated as many subs as over 25, many of them had atleast over 1k people, some as many as 200k if not more.

Before this happened, suspiciously, they banned r/LemmyMigration today early morning,

it remained banned for a few hours and returned back to normal (not weird at all). I thought that was a mistake, as the sub was back to normal unbanned, but it seems like the Reddit admins realized if they banned my sub, that would prove how they censor it, it can work against them. Now, it seems like they have realized that bringing my account down would be more effective, and stop me from possibly sharing how they censored my sub on other subs for example.

It’s a shame, and part of me is sad, everything I worked hard for was taken away by them all of a sudden. I wanted to bring some of my communities here, now everything is gone, and it feels more like starting from scratch (Or discuss with mods I am still in contact with, and get help to bring communities I was planning on bring here, but it certainly makes things harder, not giving up anyways, especially not after this).

BTW I have filled an appeal, but I don’t expect this to be reversed, this was planned by the Reddit admins and all they have to do is ignore my appeal, there is nothing more I can do to get my account back, and they just got rid of someone who was pinpointing some of their biggest flaws and potentially dangering their platform’s dominance in the “aggregation and discussion platforms” market.

A note to all refugees and ex-redditors here, or those who are planning to join Lemmy - See the power a centralized corporation like Reddit holds. With a decentralized alternative like Lemmy, you can host your own instance or join another one if you get censored, with lemmy, we can put more power back in the hands of the people.

I don’t have much else to say, moving on I will have to work with mods left that I do know through external platforms like Discord and try to bring some communities here. I hope this does not happen to any other moderator who have spend countless of hours helping Reddit in-directly like I did, somehow escaping such a suspension.

EDIT: There is some controversy in the comments if I actually spammed, I don’t think I spammed at all, I only made a post on r/ApolloApp, it became a hit so I cross-posted it to other third-party app subs, just so that it can hopefully reach out to the respective developers for them to possibly consider Lemmy in the wake of new reddit API changes.

I was also certainly not the only one mentioning alternatives like Lemmy on the r/Apolloapp or any other third-party app sub, in-fact many people were mentioning alternatives, though I was banned, also my community r/LemmyMigration as mentioned above was called spam (and was temporarily banned, but was weirdly brought back up just to put my account down later today afternoon) when it only had 2 posts today morning. To me, “spam” seems like it is only used as a cover up by Reddit, the real reason is that my posts, just like r/LemmyMigration, was about Lemmy, a competition to Reddit.

Also if it was really spam, as soon as I cross-posted my post from r/apolloapp to the other subs, the mods would have removed it well before they got a lot of attention, why didn’t they?

EDIT 2: A user called @danke has been spreading misinformation about me in the comments:

Just as you did on your newly created reddit alt, you’re painting this lie that you were banned for your tiny no-name subreddit and not for spamming this garbage on 11 different mobile app subreddits in quick succession. It’s truly like clockwork for sitebanned users to lie and omit these massive details.

This is a blatant lie, I mentioned about the cross-posts right IN THIS post: “Asking multiple third-party app devs consider Lemmy + Made the same post here as well

As you can see, I made the post right here and on reddit, i never missed any details.

  • neytjs@lemmy.ml
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    This is another good reason to stop using reddit. The internet used to have millions of active message boards for discussion of numerous topics. Reddit has essentially become one giant message board to rule them all. The world does not need this. Best to help decentralize the internet by promoting alternatives.

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      One of the reason reddit rose from these boards was persistence, boards were all over the place and no sureness if they will stay tomorrow. It seems reddit posts now have the same fate.

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    I’ll be delting my 8 year old Reddit Account at the end of the month. I’m moving to Lemmy as my new Reddit.

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      same - but I deleted my 15 yr old account today along with a few others I havent used in years.

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        Deleted mine I’d had for ~5 years. Been using reddit since 2013, but I’m done with them. I might browse with RedReader if i really need something from the site, but otherwise I’m gonna try to avoid it.

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      I want to, but I will miss my eternian friends. It’s not often you find a cool group of supportive people randomly like that.

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    Reddit permanently suspended all of my accounts because I said Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a cunt for not retiring when she had the chance. R/politics banned that account, and then a few weeks later I’d forgotten about that incident and commented in another post from a different account. That’s when reddit permabanned all of my accounts.

    I’ve been on reddit since August 2008 when Randal Monroe published this xkcd about it: https://xkcd.com/477/

    Bonus link: https://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/71v7z/typewriter_xkcd/

    15 fucking years on that site and they ban all my accounts and devices, then third party apps, porn, and who knows what else. Good riddance.

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      @redditrefugee @Archit bit of a rude word to call her, especially in the US if you’re not from here and your culture is a lot more relaxed on that word. So while it’s gross that they’ve banned you I’m kind of not surprised that kind of language would attract that kind of attention.

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        Except the mods on Reddit don’t mind at all if you insult conservatives or Republicans with much worse rhetoric. In fact. they encourage it.

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    This is showing that they know about Lemmy, which to a huge corporation like that is huge. It means they’re starting to take it seriously.

    Good. Let them sweat.

    Sorry you had your account taken away because of it. I’ll use my throwaways now to evangelize it.

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      They absolutely know about us, probably from a long time ago, but especially in this past week, with lemmy getting posted everywhere.

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        They’ve done an amazing job at burning their community. They think 3rd party apps are only used by super nerds (or at least many of the people I’ve talked to do), but I think they forgot who provides most of the content.

        Well, bots now, but good content usually came from the super nerds

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          Sometimes I do get a bit doomerist about it. If reddit is to be believed, they claim something like < 20% of people use old.reddit, or mobile apps. That seems incredibly low to me, but I must admit most of the people who I encounter IRL that use reddit don’t know about old reddit, RES, or other apps.

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            Which is why they’ve been waiting, I’m sure they kept the numbers updated to know what critical mass they thought they needed to be able to chop off this part of their userbase. Ignoring that this part was also the ones who are their most dedicated users, there for the longest amount of time.

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              I think it has more to do with timing on business/IPO decisions. They’ve decided their plan forward, and they’ve decided that they can afford to lose some users.

              I think they’ve also convinced themselves that most people using 3rd party apps or old.reddit will just get in line, because they won’t want to actually leave the platform.

              I wonder how that’ll work out for them.

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            These are traffic statistics from r/privatelife from the past 12 months. This is the most favourable scenario for third party Reddit client users.

            The reality is, third party users and old.reddit.com users are a minority and are easiest to ditch for Reddit as a company. And they will no longer care for us, so its best to prioritise our interests just like they are.

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      Reddit is so damn hypocritical here. They are successful because Digg buried itself doing shit like this. They literally got success as a result of another company doing the speedrun-your-platform-into-oblivion playbook that they are now following themselves. Look in a mirror, idiots, you’ve become exactly that which was the downfall of your competition some 13 years ago.

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    All hail Lemmy. I really hope it gets the critical mass it needs after these shenanigans.

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    They are filtering all the links that conduce to lemmy instances, and anti-spam bots are limiting the lemmy links and (auto) banning comments related.

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    I just ran powerdelete suit on my reddit accounts and replaced all of my posts/comments with ones urging users to join lemmy. I was going to wait until July 1rst but if reddit is going to get that serious, then so am I. I am OUT!

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    If this is true, this is probably an anti competitive practice and you can report it to regulation authorities in the US and EU, you might want to consult some non profit that deals with open source and free software for legal advice.

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      you can report it to regulation authorities in the US

      Funny you think the US cares.

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        Louis Rossmann’s lobbying videos have made me lose all of my trust in the integrity of the US government tbh

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          Things are probably not as black and white as that, The US have fined corporations before for anti competitive practices.

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      We can try to send an email to FSFE and though them we may be able to reach some more visibility. Also, there is a large list of journalists that already use and support the Fediverse, some of them write for big newspapers. Another thing could be directly contacting your MPs, but the communication in that case is different I guess

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    I’m advertising Lemmy on every popular post on my 11 year old account… I’m already through the painful part of the breakup, and have moved on to better things. Go ahead and ban me Reddit

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    Pretty sure Reddit can’t ban people for promoting/linking to competitors sites as there is EU regulations in place to prevent this.

    This issue was raised when Twitter tried to stop people from linking to their Mastodon accounts. Twitter put the policy in place and then quietly removed it soon after.

    If you really believe that you were banned for promoting Lemmy then you should mention this in your appeal but as others have mentioned it seems like the issue was spam.

    And sure maybe they were waiting for any reason they could get to ban you because you were promoting Lemmy and they got you on spam, always gotta read the contract/TOS to make sure the other party doesn’t get you on a technicality

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    I’m getting pretty tired of the Reddit drama - I think my bucket of popcorn is empty. I don’t see Reddit changing their tune so I’m just going all-in on Lemmy.

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    I was looking for an alternative for a long time. Your posts and sub just offered me an option that was better than any I’d seen before. Kudos, man! I logged out of reddit and don’t see myself going back, honestly.