• gapbetweenus@feddit.de
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    4 months ago

    Ok, so you are making the left responsible for being not more successful in implementing their ideas and reforming the political system? Which is fair, I guess - but also seems trivial.

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      I think the political system and the disenfranchisement of voters has been the clear difference in the second half of the 20th century between social democracies which have succeeded in reducing inequality and those which have failed.

      Ultimately the way we vote for people and the governments we end up with as a result are the least trivial aspect of politics.

      Who cares about discussing issues like the economy or immigration, or equality, or any number of foreign policy decisions.

      Ultimately only a third of the population are getting their choice in power at any given time under FPTP. There’s a winning minority, a losing minority, and a minority with no chance of someone to vote for gaining any power.

      Divide and rule by those wishing to suppress democracy. Usually for monetary gain in corruption or avoiding taxation.

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        Again, I don’t really get what you are trying to say. I don’t see any clear connection between different parts of your answer or how it’s connected to our conversation at all.

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            4 months ago

            That’s up to you. If you don’t care about people actually understanding what you say, I can’t help. Than again why participate in a conversation in the first place?

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              I simply didn’t think I’d have to dumb it down for you.

              Politics is interconnected and complicated. You’re just after a simple argument which doesn’t reflect reality.

              If you don’t see why what I’m saying is relevant to the conversation that’s on you.

              One sentence answers asking for help aren’t holding up your side of the conversation to make it interesting to engage in.

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                You’re just after a simple argument which doesn’t reflect reality.

                Fascinating, so you not only have troubles to convey your opinion but also are incapable of understanding others.

                If you don’t see why what I’m saying is relevant to the conversation that’s on you.

                It’s always the others. How convenient. Does this also happens to you in relationships?

                One sentence answers asking for help aren’t holding up your side of the conversation to make it interesting to engage in.

                Sorry for not being entertaining enough.

                So are you like just a debate bro? Or why do you talk with people if you don’t care if they get you or not?

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                  Apology accepted. If you want to try again and actually engage with the points raised, feel free.

                  But you’ve just confirmed I was right about you. You just want a simple argument you can understand and feel righteous about.