A loud minority of Texans call for Independence, which is not really possible as far as I know, BUT could the Rest of the USA just kick another state (Not necessary Texas) out? Or is this also not possible?

  • FlaxEnglish
    26·
    9 months ago

    Wonder though, does that mean states can combine?

    • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      9 months ago

      It’s laid out very explicitly in the COTUS (Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1):

      New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

      The funny thing is that during the civil war, West Virginia seceded from Virginia, and Congress voted to allow it and they were accepted into the union. There are a lot of people who argue that when that happened it was unconstitutional. However, it has never been tested, as far as I know.

      • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 months ago

        That would almost imply the Confederacy had legally left the USA, and Wrst Virginia legally left the Confederacy and joined the Union. Basically you could say none of this was un constitutional if the Confederacy was not a part of the USA at the time.

        • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          I would be doing it a disservice to try and explain it myself, but there were a lot of legal theories on how they could justify WV without justifying the Confederacy leaving the union. It’s an interesting topic.

          • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
            1·
            9 months ago

            Seems like it’d be easier, more honest and less “Jump through hoopy” to just say they left and we reconquered them. Unless you really don’t want think states leaving is legal when it probably is.

            • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              9 months ago

              You’re mistaking the fact that I recognize a limitation of myself with something else.

              • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
                1·
                9 months ago

                If what I said wasn’t fairly accurate, there’d be no need for legal arguments so arcane you don’t feel capable of describing them accurately.

                • EatATaco@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  One thing I am pretty good at is recognizing blatantly bad logically fallacious arguments on the internet, such as the classic “false dichotomy.”

                  • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
                    1·
                    9 months ago

                    No, you clearly aren’t, especially if you think this is a false dichotomy. I’m sorry, you were right about your limitations.

      • FlaxEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        That’s a new word. We have POTUS, FLOTUS, SCOTUS and now COTUS.