Something that i find prettyd disgusting these days is how certain people put their political ideologies / viewpoints over human lives, for example, celebrating the russian invasion of ukraine because it is “a blow against US / NATO imperialism” completely ignoring all the warcrimes, the deaths, and the suffering generated by that war, the same happening with the palestinian genocide because “Israel is the only working democracy on the middle east”, acting like their ideoligies are going to bring back to life all the dead people somehow

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        9 months ago

        Saying someone deserves to die for being in a place that they cannot help being in is a very dangerous thing to say.

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          9 months ago

          Sure, and I haven’t said that. My body is just not a place or at least fundamentally different from any kind of other places that exist out there. Also I like how you conveniently don’t bother answering, if for you a blastula is the same thing as a fully developed human.

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            9 months ago

            They’re both humans

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              9 months ago

              Where do you draw the line? What is not human to you, an egg? A sperm? Every single cell in your organism?

              That’s besides that you are dodging the question, since everyone with eyes can tell that a blastula is not the same as a fully developed human. It’s a stage in human development.

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                In nature, eggs and sperm are regularly discarded, sperm exists in it’s millions. It’s not the same thing as a full human. I may not have a definitive answer for when the development becomes a human, but it’s certainly not the moment it leaves it’s mother’s womb.

                Also, born babies aren’t fully developed humans either. It’s not really possible to view humanity as a binary thing.

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                  9 months ago

                  So you recognize that humans have a developmental process. You agree that sperm and egg are not a human. So somewhere in between there must be a line or we at least can come up with some criteria to define a line. So why are you against abortions, since you seem to not think that a blastula is indeed the same as a child?

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                    9 months ago

                    I don’t think the line is birth. We can quite clearly see with technology that a child does indeed exist within the womb.