Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.

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      8 months ago

      Glad to hear it. How long until that results in some material improvements for the American people? 10 years? 20? 30? I’ve already waited 16 years.

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        local will effect local im afraid. I have been suffering under the worse of two evils half the time for the last several decades and very much prefere the lesser. Much would be different if deregulation had not happened along with lower taxes for wealthy along with gutting environmental regulations. etc

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          8 months ago

          I’m not content waiting around another 16 years hoping something will change. Especially when nobody telling me to keep hanging on has any confidence the next 16 years will be any different.

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            Im not waiting but im not sacrificing better in the hopes worse will lead to even better. Personally I far prefered biden, obama, over trump and I think your perspective would be a bit different if you experience bush, bush2, and reagan. ill take slightly better now over maybe somehow worse will get us to magically transform to way better.

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              8 months ago

              Perhaps that’s because you have enough that’s worth protecting and then you turn around and shame people for acting differently because they do not.

              Stop attack leftists and progressives. Go after moderates.

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                Im a moderate (for real but by todays standards am super left instead of left of center) so that would be going after myself. Youl would have more worth protecting if we had never went into iraq or had a better environment due to having regulation or a better standard of living if taxes were collected on those who can afford it rather than being squeezed out of anyone not dirt poor. Your life is the result of those who felt it was fine to let the right win over and over a gain. even the clinton period was dominated by gingrich.

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                  Your life is the result of those who felt it was fine to let the right win over and over a gain.

                  You have a part to play in that when you vote against our interests in the primaries and claim our efforts are “too radical”.

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                    many efforts are to radical. Am I looking to get rid of capitalism. No. and if you think that type of thing is going to get a majority vote then your dreaming. But you know there are many many who want sensible regulation and for taxes to be collected. That is an achievable majority. I would love to get rid of first past the post and at least give that radicalism some voice so that can come out of the center.