• JoBo
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    9 months ago

    You forgot to quote the bit about this being the primaries, not the general.

    And you’re going to have to explain how Clinton was a desperate underdog in 2016 if you want to imply that actually, she did well.

    “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” – Chuck Schumer 2016

    And they still haven’t learnt anything.

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      9 months ago

      And you do not think those attitudes will carry over into the general?

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        9 months ago

        It depends entirely on whether the Dems are capable of responding to criticism or whether they do their usual la la la can’t hear you.

        The problem with obediently voting for the least worst option is that you end up with no good options. Being marginally better than a fascist is not enough. They need turnout and if they want turnout they need to stop fucking over their voters.

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          9 months ago

          It depends entirely on whether the Dems are capable of responding to criticism or whether they do their usual la la la can’t hear you.

          You act like Dems voters are a monolith.

          The problem with obediently voting for the least worst option is that you end up with no good options.

          And how is this going to generate another option?

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            9 months ago

            I referred to a political party, not its voters.

            And, wtf? Are you such an obedient voter that you do not care what they are offering as long as they’re wearing the right colour? Come the fuck on.

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              9 months ago

              Fuck, no. But what the fuck else should we do? Let Trump fuck us over just because Biden sucks? I do not like Biden, either, but I DETEST Trump with every fiber of my being.

              Quit the “both sides” bullshit.

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                9 months ago

                You’re reading “both sides”?

                Work on your reading comprehension. This sort of braindead centrism should have died 8 years ago