• OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    The straw-est of mans. The argument is that Trump will win the General if you don’t vote for Biden in the General. Nobody cares what you do in the primary.

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        8 months ago

        Isn’t the point of voting Uncommitted to send a message, to provoke a response?

        I’m not saying they shouldn’t have. By all means apply some pressure, but when doing so recognize that there will be a reaction. Not following up with that with additional pressure, or an organized follow through turns what could have been real pressure into windbaggery.

        No offense to you in particular, but this kind of response comes off as defensive and kinda whiny.

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              8 months ago

              The GOP is unsalvageable. Trump is an idiot. The Dems are the only other choice to try to move Left. Biden’s currently moving right.

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                  8 months ago

                  But he has? He’s literally trying to out-flank the GOP by moving to the right on immigration and the border wall. Which will not only fail to persuade trumpers to move dem, but will dissuade pro-immigration liberals and progressives. It’s a bad move. I think the rationale is that those crowds will have to vote Biden anyway or be stuck under fascist trump. Instead of trying to inch closer to Trump on Policy, Biden should try to distance himself from the GOP and run on popular progressive positions like Universal Healthcare, Public Infrastructure, increasing minimum wage, etc. And also stopping military and international support for Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Make more people enthusiastic about voting for Biden.

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                    8 months ago

                    I like all the issues you are advocating for, but you guys are out of touch with the average Dem voter IRL. Border security is a bipartisan issue currently, and what is being discussed on Lemmy (or Reddit) has very little in common w the average irl Dem voter. With the GOP so far down the shithole, I suspect that in a few years the Dems will split into a new progressive and moderate Dems will eventually replace repubs. Maybe. One can only hope.

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              8 months ago

              What republicans could they remind on lemmy? There are none and if there were most instances would (and have, exploding heads iirc) defed from theirs. Tbf, you don’t know whether or not they have an acct on truthsocial or even explodingheads and post inflammatory memes to them there where any of them would actually see it. Any “reminding” of republicans happening here is nothing more than a circle jerk everyone already agrees with, it’s just “preaching to the saved,” to steal an expression from religion, and unless you’re passing around a collection plate in the next few minutes preaching to the saved benefits exactly nothing.

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      8 months ago

      Yea, its not like the Biden campaign asked Gretchen Whitmer to say exactly that voting uncommitted in the primary would be helping Trump in the general.