Mike Mentzer already trained while on heavy doses of amphetamines in the late 70s, and the original Jack3d formula from over a decade ago contained DMAA (dimethylamylamine). So hard pre workouts have been a thing in the subculture for quite a while. It’s just usually that amphetamines or amphetamine like substances are used instead of alcohol.
I vaguely remember hearing about one of the first doping fatalities in Tour de France where a contestant dropped dead on his bike from ingesting a cognac-based concoction of every stimulant known to man.
Mike Mentzer already trained while on heavy doses of amphetamines in the late 70s, and the original Jack3d formula from over a decade ago contained DMAA (dimethylamylamine). So hard pre workouts have been a thing in the subculture for quite a while. It’s just usually that amphetamines or amphetamine like substances are used instead of alcohol.
I vaguely remember hearing about one of the first doping fatalities in Tour de France where a contestant dropped dead on his bike from ingesting a cognac-based concoction of every stimulant known to man.