• jpreston2005@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Moreso there exists no proof of sky daddys existence, why would I invent something to believe in, that places arbitrary rules upon how I live, just for funsies? If civilization collapsed, and humans had to start over from square 1, we would discover all the same scientific principles, all the same laws of thermodynamics, all the same measurements of our solar system and it’s age. What we wouldn’t do is make up the same BS stories of whatever god you happen to believe in.

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      9 months ago

      If Christianity is man made fake stories, why does it go against all of man’s desires?

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        9 months ago

        You know all the stories in the bible existed in other religions before yours? Just with different names and slightly different details here and there. Every religion was made up by people from slightly altered previous religions… it’s, comically enough, just another example of evolution.

        All religions are about why people shouldn’t be jerks, but most of us don’t need to believe anyone is watching us to behave. Stories are helpful, but they don’t have to have any “magic” to get their point accross. Just examples of things people don’t like or do like is enough to make it a good guiding story. A god figure is superfluous and unnecessary.

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          9 months ago

          What stories are you referring to? Things like the flood narrative exist around the world because it actually happened.

          Christianity isn’t about being a good person- It’s about the fact that we cannot be a good person and how we need a Saviour.

          A God figure is necessary to redeem us, and whether or not you think He’s necessary doesn’t make Him any less real.

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        9 months ago

        This argument always fascinates me because it makes it sound like you’d be a psychopath if you weren’t afraid of the consequences. I have my own internal compass, thanks. People that don’t? I’d rather stay away from them.

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          9 months ago

          I have my own internal compass

          Yeah, because of the Garden of Eden. We all do.

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            9 months ago

            Do we all have an internal compass because of the garden of eden, or from believing in Christianity? If it’s just from the garden of eden and doesn’t require belief, then atheists are just as moral as you are and your argument makes no sense.

            If a moral compass comes from religious belief, then you are telling on yourself that you only abstain from being a shitty person because you’re afraid of consequences from God.

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        9 months ago

        All those wrong religions are super hedonistic, right? They don’t make followers do anything hard or unpleasant.

        No culture’s ever made up weird shit for no reason. Your dogma is so awful it must be right.

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        9 months ago

        I cannot explain that one TBH. It’s fucking weird for a book to instruct us to sell our daughters. I have no idea why such an obviously immoral work is used as an authority when people value personal autonomy.