The discourse on American politics sometimes devolves to “Leftists who won’t vote” & “MAGA Republicans” teaming up to “getting revenge on liberals”.

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      A third party has literally no chance of winning. By voting for a third party or abstaining from voting, you are taking a vote away from Biden and thereby aiding Trump.

      If you’re too ignorant to understand that, then I can’t help you

      The fact that you’d rather let Trump win to stick it to Biden than try to prevent literal fascists from taking over our nation says a lot about you as a person.

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        you are taking a vote away from Biden

        it’s my vote to give and it’s biden’s vote to earn. it’s not like he doesn’t know what cornel west voters want. he just doesn’t care to earn that vote.

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              You both have valid and correct feelings on the matter, and that is the tragedy.

              Cornel West earned your vote, Biden didn’t. However, if Cornel earns enough votes, both liberals and leftists are going to have to look at the prospect of having to take our antifascism off screen.

              You have the luxary of voting third party, but do queer people? Do people fighting for women’s healthcare? Even people fighting for Palestinian liberation have to ensure Biden wins.

              I think that is something Cornel West and his followers should at least be talking amongst themselves about.

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                  I think if you are queer you should look at the US map and honestly ask yourself where is safest for you in a fully fascist government?

                  The i-5 corridor. Except a thrown ballot against liberals is going to put Dace Reichert into office in Washington.

                  If queer people lose Washington or Oregon as a safe haven where liberals are using the courts to ouah gay rights forward nationally, that’s the fault solely of privileged leftists, in my book.

                  But you are also right, Biden didn’t earn your vote. No liberal ever will. But sometimes, the only option is to let them have it. It sucks, I know. I am sorry, but the liberal coalition is the only safe path forward for the left movement at this moment.

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                    I think if you are queer you should look at the US map and honestly ask yourself where is safest for you in a fully fascist government?

                    i’m not leaving my home. and america is already fascist.

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                    hat’s the fault solely of privileged leftists

                    when do politicians bear the responsibility of their own actions?

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                Even people fighting for Palestinian liberation have to ensure Biden wins

                no. we have to ensure the safety of the palestinian peopl and their liberation regardless of what happens november 2

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                  When trump wins with your help, what are you going to be doing to help Palestinian people?

                  It will be too late, won’t it?

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                    what are you going to be doing to help Palestinian people?

                    same thing i do now. agitate, educate, organize.