• This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    Yes, yes US-Israel relations are solely because of Joe Biden. Not like there’s history between those two countries that goes back decades or anything.

    You are very intelligent.

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      8 months ago

      I didn’t say that. At all. I don’t like Joe’s handling of the crisis, but I’m not a Biden hater. I’m a keep Trump out of office at any fucking cost voter.

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        8 months ago

        I think a fair few of these people don’t see the very fine line that Biden is stuck walking. He really doesn’t want to see that lobby money head to Trump’s campaign. And the people pissed at Biden not doing more for the people in Gaza seem to ignore that the alternative is Trump, who will likely just not care.

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          8 months ago

          If, say, people had a different candidate to vote for … like Bernie Sanders … then no one would have to bring up the concessions Biden is making to the center-right wingnut crowd … because (1) there wouldn’t be any, and (2) every voter in America would be engaged.

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            8 months ago

            If, say, Hillary had let someone younger than 30 run her campaign and we didn’t have such a problem with people not understanding what we got because they voted third party, we wouldn’t have had Trump and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

            Remember that Hillary won the popular vote. The electoral college needs to go away. We also need to do our best to educate people on how to work with what we have and simultaneously work towards making things better while also not letting perfect be the enemy of good.

            I would bet a years earnings that some of these people would starve if left on a deserted island with a lifetime supply of their most hated food.