I think that’s beautiful ❤️

Honestly, me too a little.

Let’s be honest, this is a pron alt too haha.

I totally see what you mean. When my wife and I first started exploring kink she was hesitant. Willing but hesitant. Her feeling comfortable enough to do aggressive, degrading, or painful things to me is a major turn on in part because of the intimacy.

I’m into forced orgasms as well. I think it feels taboo because it is difficult to explain to people that it is consensual. Like, “That looks and sounds like rape, what do you mean it is consensual? If it’s consensual it isn’t forced, what do you mean forced?”

About incest though, it’s interesting the way you phrase it, would you be interested in doing consensual stuff with your closely related family or is it only witnessing closely related people being sexual that is fun for you?

Re: incest

You make a good point about most incest porn not feeling very incesty. I watch it sometimes but only specific types. I’m into dom sub stuff. A lot of it out there tends to be super hard and over the top. A lot of step mother incest porn tends to hit the same notes of the dom sub stuff but in a gentler way. That they’re supposedly a family is not part of it for me. It’s more the kinkiness of someone taking advantage of you that has a trusted position of authority over you. Like if it was a boss and employee I’d still enjoy it. The content tends to be more gentle in the domination than content tagged as BDSM. There you find stuff like people tied up. I like that too but a variety is nice.

Health and safety are definitely a pretty clear line for when fetishes become taboo. Like if someone is into choking that’s one thing, but if they want to pass out that feels disturbing.

I’m not into Daddy/Daughter so I can’t really say, but does it feel similar to how people call their partner daddy/mommy to you? Like I can get down with calling my wife “mommy” but she doesn’t like it so I don’t call her that. But even for me it’s just the mommy aspect, her calling me son or a child feels weird. That’s not part of it for me.

I mention is because this is a good example of what I was trying to describe in the past. To me, someone saying “I have a daddy kink” or “I want to be called daddy” all feel much less taboo than “I have a daddy/daughter kink”. I guess because it feels similar to pedophilia (I’m not saying it is, just trying to work out why I think people would treat it as taboo). That said, as a man being called “daddy” by a woman is basically them saying “I’m your daughter” in a sense but it feels like folks don’t want to treat it the same.

This definitely feels like a fetish and also definitely feels like it crosses the taboo line. Assuming you’re not just shit posting (lol), are you interested in using eel shaped toys with a partner or is it just a fantasy?

A site admin did intervene. What do you mean?

Related: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/166318

What the Evony ads promised

I’m not subscribed to that community. It’s not my thing. I’m not into Loli either. Frankly, I do see a problem with Loli. I guess to me it is because the Loli “excuse” of “she’s actually 3000 years old but just looks like a child” but then they proceed to portray them exactly as someone would portray a child. They (generally, I’m sure someone has counter examples) don’t portray them as some wizened elderly woman in a child’s body. That’s why Loli generally feels disgusting to me.

Age verification is the correct thing to do. In the broader internet where things are less strict I’m sure you can find actual underage actors (who are possibly even being trafficked) where it could be avoided with proper age verification. Frankly I think that’s just a super important thing (even apart from this specific discussion). An assumption I’m making (and I guess everyone is) is that the admins’ age verification is adequate. So, assuming it is, I don’t see a problem with allowing creators who appear young to make NSFW content of themselves. If it’s not adequate then there’s a much more important discussion that needs to be had. Based on some of the sticky posts over the past few weeks it seems like they’re serious about it.

To your point, a lot of content makes my skin crawl. I just ignore it. If there’s any I think is actually illegal I’d report it. Maybe I haven’t seen the specific ones you’re talking about so maybe that’s why I don’t feel the same way. I briefly went to the community when I heard about this and just now to see what the fuss was and it just seemed like legal but youthful looking people. Or just folks in their mid twenties just trying to look cute or wholesome. I didn’t see anything that makes me feel the need to report anything as CSAM. That’s just me. I believe you should report content you think is CSAM, I’m not trying to say you shouldn’t.

I know I said it before but I really do view this whole thing similar to folks who may not understand forms of kink are consensual. It’s not a one-to-one thing, but it is similar. Seeing a consensual rape-play session may make people question what the fuck is happening and may make their skin crawl. But if everyone is consenting then it’s fine. I understand why people would have a hard time accepting that (especially if they themselves have been abused).

Why do you care if an 18+ year old who looks youthful does NSFW stuff? Take an extreme example, what if Hasbulla did nudes? He is 21 but looks extremely young. I can’t see how telling him he isn’t allowed to make nude content because of his appearance is anything other than ableist and body shaming. You don’t have to like the content or even like the people who would look at it to think the content is acceptable.

If everyone is a consenting adult then everything is fine.

I believe their argument is that the community is a gathering place for stuff that looks like CSAM as opposed to any of the content looking like CSAM or not. I’m not agreeing or disagreeing, but it’s important to represent people’s arguments correctly.

!adorableporn@lemmynsfw.com is the community mentioned in the Matrix chat screenshots which Ada (from Blahaj) has said are accurate.

I think folks forget just how young people in their early 20s can look.

It’s like spokes on a wheel rather than peer to peer. Defederation means it stops pulling content in. So folks from other instances besides lemmynsfw.com won’t see comments made from lemmynsfw.com on blahaj communities. Only folks from lemmynsfw.com will.

I think your goof was the “I can’t be held accountable for your mistake of fact”. I believe they’re clearly the one in the wrong regardless though.

It sucks but it is what it is.

I think it’s been an interesting debate. You both make good points. Ads about how “it’s similar to Loli in that it is trying to look underaged” and you with “we don’t discriminate against youthful looking adults”.

I guess I see it like DDLG kinks. I find it gross. I can see why people would want to ban it because they say they’re pretending to do something illegal like CSAM, but a lot of links pretend to do something illegal. BDSM pretends to tie people up and torture them but people don’t look at it and say “hey, you’re intentionally trying to look like you’re torturing people against their wills”.

People seem to have a gut reaction to illegal things with children moreso than illegal things with adults and I guess that’s why some people have this reaction to wanting to “purge” communities like that as opposed to ones that do things like CNC, BDSM, etc. But hey, as long as everyone involved is an adult and consenting that’s totally fine.

She like flirts with him and says she was into him or something. It’s weird as hell. A good movie though. Just a weird part. It’s like the execs were like “we can’t have a movie without a romantic subplot!”