I’m predicting, that by 2030, most people megaphoning “China bad on LGBT” are going to be very embarrassed, both because of progress abroad and regression at home.

I guess I’m going to summarize what I’ve read in this thread than add an opinion on the general rhetoric.

China does have some shit laws on the subject, but (perhaps mostly both the government and the average person) lacks a fascist-driven ideological framework that is very common in the US. You will assume everything is worse than Southern US States or Nazi Germany for no other reason than that reactionaries love making it sound that way, because there is almost no one on the English speaking internet loud enough to debunk them over their digital megaphones. Well meaning parrots will parrot the only thing they hear on the subject. Other comments on this thread go over how it is not as bad as the Southern US States.

I think that future historians will note that some technology or element of an (post?-)industrial society, made faster by a socialized internet, leads most not-yet-LGBT-friendly societies into adoption of LGBT rights. The current rhetoric around the subject forgets that the US has had decades of modernization progress ahead of China on various subjects. China is caught up on manufacturing in general, China will most likely catch up on several specific technologies (CPUs) soon enough. There is no reason to believe that China will not catch up on LGBT rights in the same manor, in very short order.

The 2022 Cuban Family Code referendum sets a favorable precedent that LGBT rights under AES is likely next on the natural cultural progressions of civilizations.

China does pay attention to US politics and will notice things, such as anti-LGBT rhetoric being primarily rooted as a religious/fascist construct in modern US politics. I think they are much more likely to perceive it this way going forward than what others may have historically presumed, which was something like “LGBT rights is Capitalist decadence/influence”.

I hate this song

ferdinand sitting in his graf-n-stift wondering “yall gonna fucking shoot me or not?”

JKRowling confirmed patsoc?

not going to surprise me if MrBeast builds the first TOKAMAK in North America and brands it as Beast Power.

it’s the guys from the meme

The Holodomor Genocide Question: How Wikipedia Lies to You - Bad Empanada (1:37:17)

Sequel Response video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L3d0GJlzgc

Twitter usually doesn’t show me any replies, and also doesn’t communicate that replies exist and need to be unlocked with something like a login spell.

oh shit, we were suppose to stand for something?

I’ve seen Marvelous Ms Rachel, pretty good except except for the trots

still better than the Disney trilogy

lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:President_of_Venezuela#RfC:_Is_the_presidency_of_Maduro_currently_disputed

Since no one ever was able to convince me that the USSR killed 6942002496 people a second

TBH there is a bit of a gap in the fossil record or crockoduck or Non-sequitur there if you think about it.

There are 2 easily verifiable facts.

A. Lenin and Stalin had some ideological beliefs we can loosely refer to with words like Marxism, Socialism, etc…

B. Some people died in the USSR.

Now a normal person may presume something like correlation does not imply causation. And normal people remember in Math class where if you didn’t show your work, you get a zero.

But Liberals have this neat trick where they present this information as verified proven causation, BUT NEVER FUCKING DRAW A LINE FROM A → B. Everything that pretends to is a bunch of obvious baloney.

I feel like we need a formal term for this general concept.

oh somebody finally debunked nazistalKKKia critic? im gonna have to watch that

I wouldn’t. Why? No trans rights. Familial approval for medication is a killer for trans people, in practice it might as well be a ban outside of two neighbourhoods in San Francisco.

I know almost nothing about LGBT stuff in China, and am kind of generally ignorant about most LGBT experiences in the US, so I definitely agree with your skepticism of China on the prospect of living there, but at the same time, I don’t feel confident that either of us have reliable information on where China is in terms of cultural progression to adopting LGBT rights. You might be standing on shaky ground regarding the US’s apparent progress and recent advancements, which appears at high risk of reactionary regression. I’d say staying in the US is perhaps not as safe as one may assume, but also, moving to a northern state is much easier than moving to China, so the mean time, I’ll give you that, proving China is better on LGBT stuff will likely be a tall order. The burden of proof is probably going to be on us, and it will be a heavy burden.

On the other hand Cuba recently did a 2022 Cuban Family Code referendum (wikipedia).

Not to mention the clamping down on DIY, which unlike the west, the Chinese government has real power to actually enforce to some extent.

I have no idea what this is referring to, but I feel like this is also happening in the US, but it’s enforced via corporations using profit motives. The usual barrier to DIY projects in the US is that John Deere/Apple doesn’t want you to, or Radio Shack closed and you have to buy your parts online, some parts too complicated/miniaturized to build on US soil.

they’re back and they released an episode explaining it

I use to mod a Bernie Sanders sub and almost all right wing trolls had nothing but sports or porn in their comment history.

Putin watched the Thanos movie and wants Ukraine’s infinity grains.