anarcho_blinkenist [none/use name]

That comment pissed me off, the whole trend of doomerist opportunism too. this site is so often just a black hole that no one is interested in fighting against and I’m fucking myself up wasting my time trying in the tide of it. It’s an active negation of revolutionary consciousness in an environment which needs it cultivated and brought into the real material world. So many people seem near universally more interested in uncritical and angry insular bias-spirals and opportunist defeatism, opportunist self-confirmation of ‘nothing to be done’ and ‘might as well flee’ (which shows a petty-bourgeois affordance), and the worst: opportunism-masquerading-as-principle then shit out onto others in a misery-loves-company kind of way, than anything else constructive. Just straight-line-segment-from-the-curve understandings, as fuel for undialectical projections of doomsaying, so do-nothing opportunists can say “SEE?!?!?!” at whatever they think gives them the opportunity and get applause from other do-nothings, which facilitates the furthering the comparative growth of reaction more than the reactionaries are capable of facilitating themselves than if people were interested in constructive active forward-moving analysis of things.

Socialists in the real world (which are exponentially growing in number every month and have been for almost a decade) I’ve worked with don’t talk like people here, by and large engage more healthily about problems in society, and are more interested in engaging critically along lines of where the problems are and aren’t in given things, and working the angles to separate them along dividing lines. This site is 75+% online ultra-leftism wearing the mask of something else. There are people who have been being tortured in US prisons for decades for their activism who have more revolutionary spirit, optimism, fluidity, criticality, and desire for and KNOWLEDGE OF whole-inclusive revolutionary change, and active political consciousness and preparedness to fight by it than the metaphysical one-sided self-satisfied petty-bourgeois-oriented shit I see here.

“iF oNlY i HaD oRgAniZeD mOrE~” People who say this shit are do-nothings. People who support and further it are do-nothings, thinking the people who turned out in the Floyd uprisings, the ever-growing militant labor and tenant movements, and even students occupying colleges at the cost of their petty bourgeois futures over Palestine (A THING WHICH DOESN’T DIRECTLY EFFECT THEM, compared to Vietnam protests where they were being DRAFTED — a MARK OF ELEVATED CONSCIOUSNESS) are nothing compared to these 5000 home-owners (or otherwise long-term tenants) who decide to partake in a shitty religious email survey? Because, and not just from this, that’s what I get and what I hear, more than I get or hear anything else on this site. I wonder, where have these people been this past 10 years, if they have not been on the street seeing what I’ve seen in just my small part of it? They seem to be seeing less than comrades writing from inside prison walls somehow.

Yes the US, particularly in its bourgeois and petty bourgeois, is largely reactionary, we know this (without this trash ‘American Academy of Religion’ member survey which should be thrown in the trash); particularly in the ongoing historical inheritance of colonial relations, and that this is an avenue where false-consciousness gets pushed when alternatives are not posited and constructed due to these historical relations and its inherited contradictions. But Christ. I’ve seen more things and comments on this site, whose only purpose and only constructed framing is to uncritically reinforce insular and doomsaying biases as dead-end metaphysical ‘truths’, to spiral people into do-nothing emptiness and defeatism before any battle has even been fought by ANY of the people saying these things; than I’ve seen constructive forward-moving dialectical considerations. I’ve seen more attempts by do-nothings to self-indulgently self-satisfyingly panic-monger and doomsay about their imagined reality “out there” where they do not stand or in some dreamed-up future, to inflame destructive and opportunist impulses in people to make more do-nothings (or worse), than positive construction toward anything — or even serious Marxist criticality toward circumstances or material put forward, as long as it confirms OPPORTUNIST, ULTRA-LEFT BIASES and helps people feel like their do-nothingism is somehow ‘principled analysis’ and they can feel self-satisfied in saying so. Which is effectively reactionary, discouraging socialists of the possibility and reality of change being built, and passing it off as ‘principled analysis’ based on one’s own shallow and actively-sought bias-confirmation as a metaphysical truth, rather than developing working and critical dialectical consideration in one’s analysis of material circumstances and events, their internal components, and relations to other circumstances and events as a whole living reality and unfolding history in which we are all partaking in in the ways we do.

The flight of some people from the underground could have been the result of their fatigue and dispiritedness. Such individuals may only be pitied; they should be helped because their dispiritedness will pass and there will again appear an urge to get away from philistinism, away from the liberals and the liberal-labour policy, to the working-class underground. But when the fatigued and dispirited use journalism as their platform and announce that their flight is not a manifestation of fatigue, or weakness, or intellectual woolliness, but that it is to their credit, and then put the blame on the “ineffective,” “worthless,” “moribund,” etc., underground, these runaways then become disgusting renegades, apostates. These runaways then become the worst advisers for the working-class movement and therefore its dangerous enemies.

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this was posted before, it’s a 5000 person survey by a non-profit for “finding the intersection of religion in society for clergy and the public” (hence the weird religious breakdown), which they got by just emailing people on a USPS list with a few hundred self-selected opt-ins on top. Which also inherently excludes a bunch of people, like those who’ve moved a lot or recently, any and all homeless, lumpenized people and people in distant or ad-hoc or delapidated communities with vague USPS lines and addresses, those who don’t have internet access, those in prisons, and those who don’t check their email, and those who wouldn’t be arsed with these kinds of surveys by religion-in-politics non-profits, and countless other groups. Inherently. The study also has no breakdowns for class or income, if they live in rural, urban, or suburban environs, or even generation breakdowns for most of the questions including this one (but does for some others, weirdly); and the 18-29 age group is vanishingly small compared to the others; and just a bunch of god awful things. Which is shocking to be taken at face value, this trash 5000 person “christian nationalism” survey as “percent of Americans” like the survey says. And then you get such god awful trash takes like in this thread of “if only I’d organized harder” absolutely anti-marxist nonsense, nihilist trash.

it literally isn’t a good sample size, especially for their selection process in the breakdown of a place as diverse and varied in peoples and living conditions and environments like the US and its 350 million people. It’s a religious-focused NGO for “christian nationalism in politics”, has vanishingly few young people, does terrible breakdowns in the full report and tells us nothing about class or income, self-selects for those who are on consistent addresses in USPS lines with internet access who would be arsed to do these surveys (as well as has hundreds of self-selected opt-ins), the report is trash by a non-profit for “finding the intersection of religion and politics for clergy and the public”

which is always funny because United Russia exists as it does from its origins in the turn of the century as basically a big tent “quick everyone get in here so we can be bigger than the communists and keep them from winning legislative and voting-bloc majorities” party (which the communists would have won the presidency too in the 1996 post-fall elections over Yeltsin but Yanks To The Rescue!

also be careful you might be arrested or fined for insinuating poland ever collaborated with hitler on anything

bruh why does trump look like texas chainsaw’s leatherface god that’s upsetting, the tilted head to augahshf

I replied more viscerally in depth in another reply to one of your comment, but the assumption that it ‘not being able to think’ is a novel contributing problem in this case is working on a backwards assumption that those who can think will always seek to help and never seek to manipulate and reinforce harm, which we know from incel and other forums is not a thing. People who seek out this stuff will get it. It is a mental health and alienation and atomization under late capitalist dystopia problem, and the internet facilitates meeting like-minded individuals without effort. whether it’s a chat bot you can manipulate the guard rails by speaking in metaphoric terms to get it to reinforce you or active sadists and misery-loves-company ‘thinkers’ on the other side on a forum. People in these states are not trying to be convinced otherwise when they do this kind of stuff. They want to hear this stuff reinforced in themselves, and will do what they can to get it, (like this user speaking in metaphoric terms to get around the blocks of the bot), whether a chatbot or a forum or a discord of misery or whatever it is. The ease-of-access to these phenomenon on the internet facilitating this mirroring reinforcement and not being physically able to be broken up by a local community org is the unique aspect in general, and people can get that in forums just as easily as in a chat bot — the underlying causes and issues remain the same for both.

if it wasn’t this it would be an incel or “blackpill” forum or something. People who seek confirmation in their spirals will seek it, which this user was by working actively to get around the bot’s blocking of these things by speaking metaphorically to get it to print a reinforcement of what they wanted to hear. the chatbot is not a new thing in this scenario, and in compared to other cases online had more protection in place than others:

the chatbot in this context is in practicality no different than an incel forum which creates the same effects. It is a social reinforcement loop (“social” in the case of the bot, is approximating the same, which it machine-learns from the same interactions and relations from people online, presuming this is another LLM that just data-scrapes the internet, which also includes a lot of incel forums and these general social trends; and the user was actively trying to get responses to reinforce their biases in themselves as incel forums do.)

this study is garbage and is focused on how “christian nationalism” is affecting politics, hence the bizarre breakdown (and extreme lack of young people in the report, and with no generational breakdown in a few specific questions including this one, and no breakdown at all for class, income, urban/rural/suburban, or anything, etc.) this whole research non-profit is religious-focused.

but in general, one of the most effective mobilizing rhetorics for the Republicans right now is tying petty bourgeois racist paranoiac tropes (gangs, crime, etc.) to economic working class problems of capitalism which democrats ignore; having it folded into general nationalist false-consciousness trends (which the report does show in its ~5000 people old-religious sample economic concerns over housing and cost of living are the highest concern for people) — the classic conservative ‘they’re competing for our jobs,’ ‘they’re taking all the housing and the democrats are giving it to them,’ ‘they’re the reason you can’t afford x y z,’ ‘they’re driving up taxes while you can barely afford to survive,’ etc. which is a cornerstone of Trump’s campaign. Again the report is TTRASSSHHH and doesn’t tell us who among these percentages are working class or bourgeois, definitely includes no homeless or lumpen, barely includes young people and often avoids breaking down percentages even with what they have, so it’s hard to know anything about the dynamics there in the 5000 sample size that this organization has the gall to extrapolate to “percent of all Americans” and get taken at face value by people. But It’s a big focus of Trump campaign that as much as he does the petty-bourgeois paranoiac racism about immigrants eating dogs and bringing guns (lol the cartels get their guns from us not the other way around) he scapegoats them for housing shortages and cost of living increases and tax costs which are real points of struggle for working people. As well as his fantasy that tariffs will bring jobs back to lumpenized post-industrial towns that are in some cases not much better off as far as opportunity, drugs, crime, capital flight and brain drain, etc. than city slum areas. Which again, who knows if any of these areas are represented in this dogshit study at all.

As always, needs drilled more on that there are already more vacant homes than homeless and its banks and real-estate capitalists who sit on them, the same capitalists who the bourgeois politicians in both parties work for and are financed by and working to break down false consciousness for real class consciousness. Basic communist proletarian tasks of agitation, education, and organization around the real causes of the problems. It’s similar to the weaponization of the heinous capitalist gouging in medical care to attack trans people ‘they can get xyz but insulin/whatever is [cost]’ as if the question is ‘one or the other’ and not ‘stop dividing with bigotry and join action-coalitions with the trans-rights groups who had some successes in places to fight for access to insulin and all of these things’. it’s false consciousness

it is lmao, this whole report is constantly relating things to “christian nationalism” and its affects on politics. what trash. And there’s no class (or even income) or living environment (urban, rural, suburban, gated fcking community) breakdown or anything, and definitely includes no homeless and lumpen areas, is so fixated on religion, and the 18-29 age group is vanishingly small compared to olders — and they totally avoid breaking down the generational percentages on a few questions including this one. This whole report is garbage, I read the actual report and it doesn’t clarify itself for shit, its selection process just blindly assures that it is ‘representative’(enough to say “percentage of americans”) when they’re just emailing people from USPS databases with an additional 315 opt-in which is its own selection type (5000 people no less, to extrapolate to the whole country in all its differing segments for which their breakdown is barely existent except for Christianity types and intersections).

And it is all so obtuse in its focus and bent on this “christian nationalism,” and questions are either vague as to be pointless or weirdly aggressively leading to try to bend it toward that frame and then burying the contextual construction of the series of questions built around it, and their component subquestions, in different places in the text or in separate graphs (with some of the worst graphs I’ve ever seen, why did they do it this way?). And what little cohesion there was in the report this article removes by separating one part, which is broken down into meaningful demographics and extrapolated even less than the other sections even in the report itself, along these same bizarre obtuse lines. I really don’t trust this 5000 person religious-focused obtuse garbage to be able to say as it does “percent of americans.” This is fucking awful.

EDIT:

About PRRI
PRRI is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization dedicated to research at the intersection of religion, values, and public life.
Our mission is to help journalists, opinion leaders, scholars, clergy, and the general public better understand debates on public policy issues and the role of religion and values in American public life by conducting high quality public opinion surveys and qualitative research.
PRRI is a member of the American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR), the Ameri- can Political Science Association (APSA), and the American Academy of Religion (AAR), and follows the highest research standards of independence and academic excellence. History
Since PRRI’s founding in 2009, our research has become a standard source of trusted information among journalists, scholars, policy makers, clergy, and the general public. PRRI research has been cited in thousands of media stories and academic publications and plays a leading role in deepening public understanding of the changing religious landscape and its role in shaping American politics.

5000 is honestly a pretty small sample size of such a populous country, and this whole report is about Religion and its affects in politics, which explains why the religious breakdown focus is so stand-out bizarre. I see even in the full report absolutely no methodological breakdown for things like income, urban/suburban/rural, by design excludes all of the most marginalized including lumpen and homeless and those without USPS access database records and those without internet to do their survey, (and those who wouldn’t be arsed for this kind of stuff) etc. it also barely has anyone in the 18-29 age group, and even in the full report (and so the article) specifically doesn’t mention generation breakdowns when talking about the immigration questions, even though it breaks down the generation percentages in (some) of the other sections, like regarding Israel/Palestine. Honestly there’s a lot that pisses me off about this “study” and report. Whole thing looks ASS and is so obtuse about its framings, specifically trying to illustrate “christian nationalism” and its effects on politics. The longer report is barely even clearer on some of the critical breakdowns of age, etc. and the selection is just emailing people in USPS samples along their weird focus and also getting hundreds of self-selected opt-ins. And the religious focus is just. weird. as. hell.

wait is this just polling US Christians? Did they go to a bunch of churches what is this breakdown lol. Its “methodology” section just names a Stanford-linked research company but doesn’t actually say anything about their criteria here. The number is lower for “unaffiliated” but there’s no breakdown of how many of each of these groups proportionally were asked what.

This is literally already happening and has been since at least Bush and Obama? Does people think the border camps are operated and manned through pinky promises and good-faith dialogue? ICE uses boxes of chocolates and impassioned pleas? I guess this is support of it continuing?

#JustLeopoldIIThings

When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such injury that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society xxxv places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains.

(…) I have now to prove that society in England [Canada] daily and hourly commits what the working-men’s organs, with perfect correctness, characterise as social murder, that it has placed the workers under conditions in which they can neither retain health nor live long; that it undermines the vital force of these workers gradually, little by little, and so hurries them to the grave before their time. I have further to prove that society knows how injurious such conditions are to the health and the life of the workers, and yet does nothing to improve these conditions. That it knows the consequences of its deeds; that its act is, therefore, not mere manslaughter, but murder, I shall have proved, when I cite official documents, reports of Parliament and of the Government, in substantiation of my charge. That a class which lives under the conditions already sketched and is so ill-provided with the most necessary means of subsistence, cannot be healthy and can reach no advanced age, is self-evident.

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Yeah we see how much you give a shit about your AsSoCiAtEs. Yeah I’m sure this is so difficult for you, corporate whitewash mouthpiece.

guy has no political acumen to make the austerity, theft, and plundering less shameless. guy thinks US is gonna protect him from the pitchfork mob while he’s doing everything to ensure the cops and military open the gates to his compound for them; but he’s gonna be too much of an awkward political liability for that, Trump or whoever’s just gonna let the phone ring as he gets ripped to shreds by the masses.

OP @SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net it’s Pridnestrovie, not ‘Transnistria.’ ‘Transnistria’ is what the imperialist and neo-colonials in “the west” call it, to refuse the status of the country because it just means “[the Moldovan territory] past the Dneister (river),” as well as to treat it as simply a historical legacy, not of the USSR, but of its previous administrators: the Nazis.

Pridnestrovians don’t want to be called that, consider it a grave insult actually, because it’s literally the name the Romanian and German Nazis used for their occupation government when they carried out the Holocaust there (Transnistria Governorate). Pridnestrovie was deeply impacted and affected by the Holocaust, and the Nazi-occupied administrative territory of the “Transnistria Governorate” served as a junction point where Jews from surrounding areas were deported to in ‘processing’ for enslavement or liquidation or later transfer elsewhere.

It is a point of deep national consciousness, this experience, and of national pride that they did as much as they did to resist Nazism and to shield Jews in the territory ^{[sci-hub link]}; an uncommon phenomenon in most of Europe which saw huge collaborations and pogroms against Jews.

They by and large do not connect with the legacy of their previous occupiers who lay claim to them. During Catastroika and fashnost leading to the breakdown of the USSR, which caused the vicious resurgence of right wing nationalism, there grew large radical movements of Moldavian and “Greater Romania” fascists, who began demanding things such as the removal of all languages but Moldovan/Romanian, change to latin script, and expulsion of Slavs from the country and eventually in 1990 acquired power in the central government of the Moldavian SSR and started to implement their policies. It is in this environment that the Pridnestrovians had organized ad-hoc independence referendums, which were met with violent resistance by these fascist groups (just as we saw a much more drawn-out version of in the DNR/LNR in Ukraine) and declared independence — because they feared an independent Moldova led by these people would not only directly abuse them as they had already begun to, but also align and possibly even unite with the core country of their previous occupiers and exterminationists in Romania. Pizzachev annulled their independence but they in practicality maintained it and after the failure of the August coup in 1991 they declared independence in secession from the USSR as well as Moldova. They even fought a 2 year long low-intensity war from 1990-1992 to maintain their independence (and in which Ukrainian Nazi volunteers fought against Moldova, but for trying to annex Pridnestrovie into Ukraine) resulting in the death of over a thousand people.

And so they do not wish to be called anything but Pridnestrovie, or the full name Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic.

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