it is that simple yep - at least concerning specific constituencies.

Physician: I think the best way to answer that question is to talk about the cultural shift that happened in 2020, because transgender ideology and Covid are inextricably linked. Normally, doctors operate by the authority of the professional societies that govern our specific practice. That worked because the individuals in those institutions were reliable, intelligent, and thoughtful. But with Covid in 2020, we started getting medical decrees without peer review or evidence—you saw this with masks, social distancing, and emergency-use authorizations. These decrees were expressed as something that everyone had to do, without justification based on sound science. The other thing was censorship. If you were to ask questions or express doubt about these medical decrees, you would be ostracized within your department, and you stood a good chance of being publicly humiliated, severely reprimanded, or fired.

That’s when transgender ideology really took off.

Oh god its even more embarrassing when you look further into the physicians own words and beliefs. Yikes.

He’s also wrong, the consensus he’s rallying against and feels strayed away from his own bigoted views (and if you read the full transcript they certainly are bigoted, he doesnt believe transgender identity is real, a social contagion he refers to as transgender ideology) which likely more aligned to the time when Transgenderism/Gender Identity Disorder/Gender Dysphoria was considered a mental illness which it was declassified from being so in 2017 by the WHO with an advance announcement of IPD-11 which was then published in 2019 and the DSM-5 recently had an addendum attached to it to note that it too no longer considered Gender Dysphoria a mental illness.

Transgender healthcare internationally had accepted trans people as telling the truth and not mentally ill or incorrect in their assertions for quite some time - though many healthcare organisations conservatively have still been slow to fully embrace this development - the UK famously parting ways with the US led WPATH and saying they were inventing their own group UK lead organisation BAGIS which has gone about as well as Brexit as now 4 years later is still lacking in any agreed upon formal diagnosis criteria or actual definition of what they’re assessing/diagnosing trans people with.

The one thing hes partially on to but isnt realising is that Covid did play a role in a considerable bump in transgender people coming out. Lockdown and reduced public socializing cut people away from their normal routines and for closeted trans people, removed them from many of their coping strategies for trying to suppress their gender trauma while giving them time to explore and process. But this isnt a new phenomenon - we saw large bumps in transgender people coming out in the UK when the Brexit vote won, when Trump won the election (a smaller but still significant bump of trans people coming out from the right wing sphere when Trump lost his second term), and smaller bumps have been directly correlated to key moments of heightened negative press in the UK Media towards transgender people. The more dire the world became, the less people felt they had to lose and started taking actions that they had been putting off and confronting what they actually wanted out of life.

A physician at a children’s hospital that offers cross-sex medical procedures

So not a physician that actually has any credentials within the field of transgender healthcare or any training in it, and doesnt treat transgender patients. Just a nameless person, student doctor, interning physician, who knows, just works at the hospital and thinks its bad and has a feeling that its making kids suicidal by treating them?

We already know from the ACPeds entire organisation data leak the names of the anti-trans physicians who work at those childrens hospitals, including the ones that received bomb threats for treating trans kids. ACPeds (American College of Pediatritians) again being the Evangelical Christian Nationalist organisation that tries to sound like its an accepted official medical science group but is actually a known hate-group by the Southern Poverty Law Center thats works hand in hand with far right organisations in their attempt to demonise the LGBTQ as well as remove access to abortion and birth control for women. Meanwhile the AAP is the actual official pediatric organisation, the American Academy of Pediatrics - with an open membership of 67,000 medical professionals. While ACPeds had a (until the leak) secret members list of less than 700 members, with many fewer than that actual medically trained professionals.

Like really what is the article saying thats new? that some people hate trans people and dont agree with the international medical consensus? Shocking. Two GPs at my local clinic that im registered to literally wont see me because im transgender and its against their religious beliefs, big whup.

Perhaps our good friend the sensationalist hackjob Christopher “Children are being given BDSM literature by teachers” Rufo wants a line my GPs too to talk about how they also think trans treatment is dangerous and shouldn’t be allowed. Or maybe he’d like to talk to the christian nurse who while i was recovering from bottom surgery said she’d pray for me to realise my mistake in going through with it and finally find happiness as being a man as god intended.

If only there was a randomized clinical study that had just come out run by actual endocrinology experts that showed that access to transgender hormone care radically reduces suicide ideation in patients against a placebo control group thus ruling out that its just trans people “making things up” to get access to medication

Oh like this one maybe: https://www.miragenews.com/testosterone-treatment-boosts-mental-health-of-1029278/

Receiving rapid access to testosterone therapy reduced feelings of gender dysphoria and led to a clinically significant reduction in depression as well as a 50% reduction in suicidality among transgender and gender diverse adults, according to research being presented Sunday at ENDO 2023, the Endocrine Society’s annual meeting in Chicago, Ill.

“This is the world-first randomized clinical trial supporting the significant benefits of testosterone in reducing gender dysphoria, depression and suicidality in trans individuals desiring commencement of testosterone,” said Brendan Nolan, M.B.B.S., F.R.A.C.P., a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Melbourne (Austin Health) in Melbourne, Australia.

It’s a pity the nameless anti-trans physician who has a feeling, doesnt have any facts to back it up with.

I say that last part because facing up to, understanding and admitting that you were wrong, or misguided is something all trans peoeple are deeply, keenly aware is so hard to do from personal experience - because it is key turning point for almost every transgender people in their own journey to self acceptance and coming out - an incredibly difficult step to take and move beyond.

Because beyond the very small minority who, gods knows how, against all they have been told by the world around them, against physical outside proof, and by those who care for them, believe in their internal sense of self and walk up to their parents and just say “i am actually a girl/a boy” at the young age of 5 or 6 and again against all odds their parents actually listen to them - beyond those, all trans people build a persona of survival over their truth over time. They listen to what they are taught by those who love them, those they respect, and infer that the small internal need that pulls at them ever stronger, a biological one, to be who they really are, they mark that as wrong, shameful, and dangerous to ever expose or trust in. Children learn everyday that the world is not kind to those who expose their needs, they watch as others are mocked, bullied, abandoned by their friends for exposing themselves in that way.

It’s actually quite ironic considering the article at hand, you see, at the age of 4 i walked up to my mum in our kitchen and was hoping to ask her if i could be allowed to pretend to be a cat, which one might find odd - why would a child ever think they need permission of their parent to play make believe - i pretended to be lots of things with my older brother and his friends. Except, in my mind boys werent allowed to pretend to be cats - the girls in our school would pretend to be cats in the wendy house in the school yard, cats were “cute”, another thing i felt boys were not allowed to be. I wanted to ask if it she would let me pretend to be a cat, like the girls, to be a girl cat. But i didnt, my mum asked me what i wanted and i was suddenly too ashamed to ask. I built over it like the majority of trans people do, denial, defense, survival.

So like me, and the majority of others, you end up as closeted trans teens and trans adults, who have built their own prisons in their minds, reasons for why they have to always hide this unknown part of themselves from everyone - many not realising the name of this part - explaining it away with logic, facts, fear, “oh all women want to be men really deep down, thats because of misogyny and the patriarchy”, “of course i want to be a girl, who wouldnt, they get all the fun things in life and get to express themselves and their emotion so more freely but i was born a boy so its not possible”.

And we believe we’re smart and in control, that we know ourselves. The trauma of hiding a core need of identity from childhood onwards from everyone and taking on a persona you show the world instead that you hope others will like rather than be who you are, does that to a person, it builds into a type of cPTSD. That type of trauma and upbringing makes trans people crave control in their life, hyperawareness to figure things out, because to lose control, to not figure out whats happening before others, could mean people would find out the shameful secret that has been taught into you over the years to not just be a childish want, but a wrongness, a sickness, a monsterous part of you.

So instead we believe with certaintyy that we’re smart, that we have the answers and logic to who we are, and why we are and why we definitely can not, ever, possibly, be a one of those people, transgender.

Until finally we reach a point, someone says something, we read something, we hear something and a small crack occurs in that logic, and it all shatters. We realise that all our certainty that we were right, our control, grasping tightly to our performative identity, our sense of logic to why we are what we are, all of it is a lie - and for all this time we’ve on a subconscious level have known is a lie. One that over the years, started off a lie by omittance, and then we began to believe our own lies, before finally needing more and more our lies to be right, because of fear of what it means to be wrong and facing the truth.

Every trans person who has come out, has had to on some level accept that their entire world they had created around them was a lie, a lie they were telling themselves and believing. That we were deeply fundamentally wrong - all the while thinking we were incredibly Very Smart when in fact we were not. We instead have to humble ourselves and recognise that we are clearly capable of untold levels of denial, that we are just human like everyone else, flawed, fallible. We have work to burn down an entire life that was a false persona built on a need for survival, and recognise and accept that once childish need as a core part of our truth and identity and build anew.

So i ask again, to those reading who immediately believed the story about a 13 year old girl saying she identified as a cat to her teacher without question, those of you who believe that you are Very Smart, and possessing the answers to things based on purely your logical judgement without need of experience or greater information, a judgement which can never be wrong - how does it feel in this moment to realise that your judgement was wrong, so biased, that your assessment of yourself is deeply flawed and illogical, because you were in fact just taken in by two 13 year old girls lying on TikTok and believed it.

Fallibility, ignorance, and inexperience, can you accept that about yourself on the topic of transgender identity, or is that one step too far, are you just going to lie to yourself and look elsewhere again for those who will tell you you’re still right and its the media that are now lying, that a girl really did identify as a cat and that our Prime Minister isnt a total clown for doing the same, and push yourself further into conspiracy and denial?

On Monday evening, former Apprentice contestant, Michelle Dewsbury popped up on GB News, dressed as a cat, mocking the Year 8 pupil and insisting she be called ‘Meowchelle’. Later, following slight pushback, the reliably touchy Dewsbury took to Twitter and wrote:

“I’ve had people messaging me saying I’m cruel and/or bullying to mock this child. No. Cruelness is indulging this ridiculousness and prioritising feelings/fiction over actual reality. The more people who stand up to nonsense, the better.”

The steam was up and the righteous mob went to work. Thousands of Twitter accounts piled in on the story and media and public figures including Piers Morgan, Nick Ferrari and even Britain’s ‘strictest head teacher’ Katharine Birbalsingh leapt on it.

The story had such momentum that even the Education Secretary, Gillian Keegan, got in on the act. By Wednesday, the Daily Mail was reporting that Keegan had ordered an investigation into the school, and soon even Rishi Sunak was wading in, via his Number 10 spokesperson condemning (in the words of the Mail) “schools (that) are allowing children to identify as cats, horses and dinosaurs.”

Well done everyone, you all readily gobbled up in full belief a story that clearly from the outset wasnt true and took part in a giant group bullying of a 13 year old trans child because you’ve fallen so far down a transphobic rabbit hole you think there are actually school kids identifying as cats and asking for litterboxes in the name of gender equality.

Perhaps we could now have a balanced, non-extreme and nuanced discussion on the fallout of all of the above and people’s own kneejerk reaction to reading the original article and whether they fell for it without doing any real critical thinking? Why they thought it in any way might be true, and whether its making them reflect on their kneejerk feelings towards the validity of transgender people’s identities and how the right wing media spheres might be influencing those feelings?

To be clear the mods locked it in under 2 minutes of it being posted with no comment or message.

My two DM attempts over the past few days to raise this issue with Tom, the admin of Feddit.uk instance as a whole have so far received no response.

I’m currently holding off on raising the Fediblock flag on this to escalate it to a larger issue in need of attention to the wider fediverse, as im hoping this is growing pains and time to adjust, and because i really would love to see the wider Feddit project succeed with instances flourishing but the actions of the lead moderator of Gender are clearly only looking to reinforce their own anti-trans stance which contravenes the rules of this entire instance which specifically state “No Transphobia” but as of yet the instance admin doesnt seem to be interested in enforcing that and that brings the federated safety and reputation of this place into doubt. If the instance was a mastodon instance it would already be fully defederated from by the wider fediverse.

I have raised this before, the fediverse is heavily trans lead, the ActivityPub code its built on was programmed by a trans woman, many moderators and admins of instances are trans, and the community doesnt approach “Transphobia” as negotiable or a debate in the manner that places like twitter and reddit or the UK media or Government promote for financial or political gain from rage engagement and “culture war”.

The lead mod has since started posting in the anti-lgbtq instance anti-trans articles, after going on bended knee asking them as “an anti-lgbtq instance” to come and join in his community here which lead to them starting to post articles from a self identifying far right ‘finance and news’ website as well as videos mocking trans existence.

charming conspiracy theory. Strange though when you think about it that the very same pharmaceutical companies dont seem to want to make thousands of times the profit by going after the 1.2 billion peri/post menopausal women who could be taking HRT medication for the rest of their lives. That women are still routinely encouraged to only consider it as an aid for half a year to a year to help them adjust to post-menopause life and not stay on it for too long. You really would think that would be the market those pharmaceutical companies would have first chosen to manipulate and conquer decades ago for vast fortunes. And yet women still are struggling to get allowed access to HRT for longer.

And yet for some reason instead these mustache twirling villains have gone to a giant trouble to hoodwink the youth of today in order to create a market that spans 0.2% of the global population, a tiny minority population that famously lacks good job prospects, and often the financial stability to afford said medication and so in turn have to turn to grey market alternatives or make it themselves. And then these sinister pharmaceutical CEOs cunning plan is to not design any patented medication purposefully for the trans population which would allow them to jack up the price as they do with new HIV meds or Insulin, in fact not release a single new medication of any sort for transgender people at all, never design a single drug for transgender people, ever - and rather just offer them cheap off label use drugs for other conditions or general generic compounded pharmacy meds. like you really would think they’d be pushing expensive fancy medication that really hooks the customer in and not bargain bin meds like heart disease medication spironolactone or anti-prostate cancer medication bicalutamide. It almost makes you think that the pharmacy companies really dont give a crap about the relatively miniscule trans populace who access the medication when compared to cis men who take TRT and cis women who take HRT. like heck the UK NHS has GnRH Agonist injections they prescribe to prostate cancer patients that fully take out a persons gonadal production for months and costs a fair penny to procure, you really would think that would be even remotely accesible in the US to give to trans women where the market is greatest right now, but no, just generic off brand drugs that do a far worse job and that have been in use for decades for cheap.

whats the truth in your words though, you seem to already know?

what truth is that then

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Now, again, ill lean on anecdotes, and there are many, of people who had dysphoria and then simply grew out of it. <citation needed>

What anecdotes are you Ieaning on exactIy? Are these peopIe in your Iife you know or are they from just generaI hearsay Iike various gender criticaI women saying they had gender dysphoria but grew out of it? What is your background to aII of this? Are you connected to a detransitioner community? a gender criticaI community? a transgender community?

What is your experience of actuaI transgender existence?

You’ve suggested, and now you’re turning to anecdote. I know thousands of trans peopIe and i know a few who are unhappy with their surgeries, i know a few who have detransitioned and retransitioned, i know two who detransitioned, decided they were cis, and then after a few years reaIised they actuaIIy were trans and retransitioned. But thats aII anecdotaI.

If you want to debate, bring some studies. Studies from actuaI scientists and not poIIs conducted by anti-Igbtq activism groups Iike TransgenderTrend or Moms of America.

The MedicaI estabIishment is not friendIy to transgender peopIe in the UK or the US, they’re deepIy conservative in their positions. They’re not biased towards us.

https://epath.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boof-of-abstracts-EPATH2019.pdf

Detransition rates in a national UK Gender Identity Clinic Thursday, 11th April - 16:30: Attended Poster Session (FOYER) Skye Davies 1, Stephen McIntyre 1, Craig Rypma 1

Of the 3398 patients who had appointments during this period, 16 (0.47%) expressed transition-related regret or de-transitioned. Of these 16, one patient expressed regret but was not considering detransitioning, two had expressed regret and were considering detransitioning, three had detransitioned, and ten had detransitioned temporarily. The reasons stated by patients for their regret or detransition included: social factors, reporting physical complications, and changing their mind about their gender identity and identifying as their gender assigned at birth. The 16 patients consisted of 11 trans women, two trans men, two cis men, and one person assigned male at birth who said their gender identity was “trans”. Study findings are consistent with previous research showing low rates of detransition. Detransition was most often prompted by social difficulties rather than changes in gender identity or physical complications and was most often temporary. Only three patients made a long-term detransition. Strengths of this study include our use of an electronic search to efficiently scan a large number of patient records and our investigation of reasons for regret and detransition.

Limitations of this study include that it only provides a snapshot of current rates of detransition and regret and relied on self-reported experiences of patients who may not have disclosed information relevant to this study in their appointments. These results suggest that current practices at the clinic are related to very low rates of detransition and regret.

Future studies in gender identity clinics may investigate factors that predict detransition in a larger sample of patients.

sure, a ton of trans peopIe have executive dysfunction and dont want anything to do with their surgeons post surgery, are you suggesting the 36% who were Iost to foIIow up were going to diverge wiIdIy from the resuIts recovered from those who did respond?

So bring your studies to the table that show what you think is reality.

I brought you a conclusive and accepted study looking at 27 studies over many years and it shows extremely low regret rate.

You question it why?

A very small minority of transgender people detransition, and out of those that do the majority do so for lack of support form family, community, and from transphobia from the general public.

https://transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf

2015 Survey of 28,000 transgender people:

Overall asked if they had ever detransitioned 8% said yes.

Transgender women were more likely to report having de-transitioned (11%), in contrast to transgender men (4%). Rates of de-transitioning also differed by race and ethnicity, with American Indian (14%), Asian (10%), and multiracial (10%) respondents reporting the highest levels of de- transitioning - which aligns with cultural pressures from family and community.

Most reported they then went on to then go on to retransition later.

The reasons given for detransitioning are as follows:

Pressure from a parent 36% Transitioning was too hard for them 33% They faced too much harassment or discrimination as a transgender person 31% They had trouble getting a job 29% Pressure from other family members 26% Pressure from a spouse or partner 18% Pressure from an employer 17% Pressure from friends 13% Pressure from a mental health professional 5% Pressure from a religious counselor 5% They realized that gender transition was not for them 5% Initial transition did not reflect the complexity of their gender identity (write-in response) 4% Financial reasons (write-in response) 3% Medical reasons (write-in response) 2% A reason not listed above 35%

So 4% of trans men detransition, but only 5% of those stated they detransitioned because gender transntion it was not right for them.

So thats a 0.2% regret rate for cis women based on realising they werent transgender. –

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

Its not really a problem when your regret rate for transmasculine surgeries is less than 1%.

A total of 27 studies, pooling 7928 transgender patients who underwent any type of GAS, were included. The pooled prevalence of regret after GAS was 1% (95% CI <1%–2%). Overall, 33% underwent transmasculine procedures and 67% transfemenine procedures. The prevalence of regret among patients undergoing transmasculine and transfemenine surgeries was <1% (IC <1%–<1%) and 1% (CI <1%–2%), respectively. A total of 77 patients regretted having had GAS. Twenty-eight had minor and 34 had major regret based on Pfäfflin’s regret classification. The majority had clear regret based on Kuiper and Cohen-Kettenis classification.

You’ll be hard pressed to find an elective surgery with that low a regret rate anywhere. The US has 3% regret rate for Lasik.

They’ve defederated from a Iot of common badfaith instances on the fediverse, lot of pleroma and masto troll/fash instances - which is normaI for admins on the fediverse. Its active protection of your users from harrassment. Most mastodon instances have 200-400+ instances blocked and defederated. Its standard.

Lemmy admins may be new to the fediverse, but once the troll instances start to realise how easy it is to mess with you from the safety of their instances, you’re going to need your admins to start communicating with the long term masto admins, get their blocklists and recognise how they keep their users safe proactively rather than retroactively.

Defederation is one of the strongest defenses the federation has in terms of maintaining stability within its wider network and enforcing that admins/mods do their jobs. Its a matter of everyone seeing eye to eye and agreeing on ground rules for civility and agreeing they’re going to moderate to a decent active standard and keep control of their users. If an instance is unable to keep control of its house, or the admin goes AWOL and ends up with tons of bad faith users running amok flinging poop everywhere, then yeah they will get defederated. It can always be fixed later on with serious discussion and commitments made between the admins of instances.

But yeah every instance on the fediverse that doesnt want underage porn / nazi imagery / fascist agitators / gore / hatespeech etc getting posted continually to their users, is going to have to defederate a couple of hundred instances. The Fediverse is a lot bigger than Lemmy, and people outside of Lemmy/Kbin can all post to your instances and your threads, or even start our own threads.

Yes, people used to twitter and reddit do often think thats a problem that cant be solved, but quickly find out it really is actually pretty quickly solved on the federated side of the fediverse.

“I dont think gay people should be allowed to get married” is a homophobic statement, so yeah no you cant post that publicly online on a space that doesnt allow homophobia. It gets flagged as homophobic, the person who flagged it’s moderators immediately talk to the person who posted it’s moderators, and they’re asked to remove it and either warn the poster from ever doing it again or if they’re seen to be a bad faith account thats just trying to spread hatespeech, they’re given the boot from the instance. If the instance moderators refuse to accept it as homophobia, then a fediblock post is made and over the next few hours most instance admins read the situation that an instance is refusing to uphold the pretty clear cut no homophobia stance and say hey if you dont start enforcing your own rules that you list on your site, we’re going to have to assume you’re a badfaith instance, a danger to our communities and defederate from you. It really is that simple. Same with transphobia, casteism or racism. People are welcome to hold hateful viewpoints, but you cant start trying to debate them or push them on a site that doesnt allow it in its rules.

The Fediverse, ActivityPub, was built by transgender people, the moderators of many of the key instances, are transgender, the federation is deeply transgender and the “No Transphobia” rule is pretty concrete in the same level of rock hard as “No Racism” regarding what most good faith instances accept those things to mean.

Thats why its a rake in the grass for new instances, especially ones that are UK based due to their abysmal degrees of transphobia in their media and how far anti-trans activists have sealioned the idea of “yes but what really is transphobia” over the last 8 years.

The good faith federation doesnt have free speech, the federation isnt a place of free speech. The federation bans outright most places that include the phrase “free speech” in their community rules pages because its 100% only ever used as a dogwhistle by far right instances.

Hi, chiming in as a person from Mastodon from the past 7 years.

The rake in the grass that Feddit UK is going to run into is Transphobia.

FedditUK says in its rules that it wont allow Transphobia in its communities, fair enough, if thats truly what they mean great.

But this is the same rake in the grass that many of the newer instances over on mastodon since Musk took over twitter have run into, many of the journalism instances for example had strong “No Transphobia” rules, right up until a Telegraph journalist that was a user on their instance posted a transphobic article at which point the mods suddenly felt they simply couldnt restrict the free speech of a journalist even though it directly contradicted their own server rules.

The firm “No racism, no transphobia, no homophobia, no casteism” of the federation is pretty strict on that and many new comers to the fediverse find it shocking how “i just want to debate your right to use the toilet” isnt allowed on federated instances. And remaining connected to the greater federation requires that social contract and showing you’re actually moderating and removing bad actors from your instance and blocking bad faith instances to protect your users and users of other federated instances who may use your communities/magazines/subfeddits for discussion.

The giant federation that agrees to these rules thrive as a big hub network, but theres thousands of tiny instances out there that dont that are defederated for very good reason (loli, gore, terrorism material that is illegal to own/view in the UK), a dark side to the fediverse ocean which is often joking referred to by mods as the “c*m” side of the federation (due to the sheer staggering amount of tiny 1-5 people instances with that word in its url), that includes places like gab, truthsocial, spinsterdotxyz (anti-trans subreddit), and so on.

lemmy federates with mastodon and pleroma, which means its open to all the above instances, theres gonna be a ton of instances that lemmy instances need to block to keep their users safe from spam and illegal content.

But after that, the question still remains, what are the admin or moderators of any of the FedditUK communities going to do when the transphobia rake appears in front of them?