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Cake day: June 9th, 2023

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  • Yes the low quality wood is a point of contention and I don’t think we have a clear picture of who did it. Paramount paid for higher quality wood and it seems like the lumber company gave RCCA the low quality wood. Rumor was that RCCA tried to sue the lumber company but the lumber company had gone out of business before the lawsuit was filed. Paramount then sued RCCA over the ride but regardless the bottom line was the coaster was just not going to survive without essentially a rebuild and after the accidents that happened cedar fair (who inherited the mess) just had to cut their losses. There is a really good Defunctland about SoB that is well worth the watch. I don’t think it goes too deep into the lumber issue but it covers A LOT.


  • By 2006 I could certainly see it being a disaster. It wasn’t built well and I think that was around the time that they replaced the trains because it was tearing it’s self apart especially since someone (lumber company, RCCA, etc) slipped in low quality wood instead of what it was supposed to be.

    As for beast, yea, I agree… it feels a lot slower but it’s a mental thing. The exit speed from the brakes is the same but since the magnetic brakes shave the speed off of the train so abruptly your mind translates it into slowing down… the old friction brakes shaved the speed slowly so you didn’t really notice it. It’s basically the same as riding in a car and the driver is gently applying the brakes and you don’t even realize that you’re slowing down vs hitting the brakes harder because someone pulled out in front of them. I do think there may have been some reprofiling that went on with the helix that probably also took away some of the lateral G force so that would also contribute to the slower feeling if that’s the case.



  • I agree that those magnetic trims ruin the flow. It actually doesn’t go any slower than it did before but it really does feel like it because of how abrupt those brakes hit. I know magnetic trims save a lot of maintenance but I would love it if they went back to the friction trim brakes.

    I’m curious what year you rode SoB. I rode it opening year (possibly 2nd year) and I absolutely loved every moment of it. I know that it tore it’s self apart quickly which was the biggest reason why they got the new lighter trains (which led to the removal of the loop since they couldn’t make it through it). I don’t doubt it was getting bad.












  • Raptor is such a great coaster but that head bang that you talk about is something that becomes an issue with all of B&M’s inverted coasters with that type of restraint. They seem to get worse with age in the headbanging department. Still a coaster that I love to ride but not one that I can marathon. I think, for me, when it was new and I was in my teens that coaster always felt like it just kept getting better as the ride went on. Most coasters start running out of a steam by the end but Raptor was one of the first that used tighter turns and inversions to make it feel like it was going faster and faster even if it was slowing down.





  • I don’t know if much would have changed. There is also the possibility that the merger keeps the park alive. Still a ton of unknowns. I am personally still hoping that the merger gets blocked but even if it doesn’t get blocked there is a strong possibility that the combined company will be forced to divest some of their parks so the sale of CAGA could actually be an advantage to the merger.

    Regardless of what happens to the merger I hope that CAGA does get saved. I would honestly like to see the local government take over ownership and maybe even operations but I could also see it being a park ripe for Palace to purchase.









  • I know there are certainly people that genuinely found it painful but I think the reality is a vast majority of people would have never noticed it had they not been told prior to their first ride on the coaster. It’s become such a meme that it’s been an expected thing for anyone. Unfortunately there isn’t any way that this can be proven one way or the other but, at least for those around me, the ones who knew nothing about the coaster going into it (typically more general public leaning friends and family) really enjoyed the ride and didn’t experience any pain.