ObjectivityIncarnate

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  • women struggling in the office when they did not put on makeup that specific day, how the behavior of random strangers changed etc.

    It’s simply the difference that’s being noticed, and no one’s really at fault for that, on either side. Any woman who never wears makeup is also never going to get the same ‘are you sick?’ kind of reactions on any given day she doesn’t wear makeup to work.



  • Your opportunities in life are absolutely dependent on your wealth. Those hoarding wealth are stealing opportunity from everyone.

    What if the wealth you possess was created by you? Wealth isn’t zero sum, it’s created all the time (and at a rate literally not achievable simply by underpaying employees, to pre-refute the expected response). The implied premise of ‘because they have it, we don’t have it’ just doesn’t hold any water.

    Also, it doesn’t really make sense to call it ‘hoarding’ when it’s largely/all invested in businesses that run within the economy. To hoard something is to keep it isolated–investments in publicly-traded companies can never truly fairly be called “hoarding”. You could only fairly call the funds kept in back accounts etc. unspent ‘hoarded’.




  • Someone walking around openly armed is absolutely not mundane at all.

    In Wisconsin (because it’s legal), and particularly on that day, in that area, it is demonstrably/provably so that it was considered mundane, evidenced by the fact that although Rittenhouse was openly and visibly armed with that long rifle the entire time he was there, he received nary a second glance from anyone, much less an overtly negative response, neither when he showed up, nor when he was walking around the crowd offering water and medical assistance, for hours.

    Nobody gave a shit. You can’t look at all that video and act like he was this intimidating scary presence because he was armed, when it’s obvious ZERO people freaked out over it that day.

    Ironically, even his ATTACKERS didn’t give a shit, and charged at and chased him despite being, literally, SEVERELY outgunned.

    Drone video clearly showed Rittenhouse pointing his weapon at people, repeatedly.

    Link the full video (so fullest possible context can be seen), with timestamp(s)

    This direct threat to others is what eventually provoked Rosenbaum into trying to take his gun off him.

    Oh, please, this is nonsense (and frankly digusting that you’re trying to turn Rosenbaum of all people, into this heroic figure, considering all we know about him both on that day, and prior to it):

    "Ryan Balch, one of the armed men patrolling the streets of downtown Kenosha along with Rittenhouse, told the court that 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum had appeared “aggravated” that evening and had been seen shouting “fuck you” to various protesters in the crowd.

    “Every time I encountered Joseph Rosenbaum, he was hyper-aggressive and acting out in a violent manner,” Balch testified. “He was always having to be restrained by someone.”

    Another witness, Richie McGinniss, testified Thursday that Rosenbaum had chased Rittenhouse into the parking lot of a car dealership and lunged for Rittenhouse’s AR-15 rifle before the teenager opened fire.

    Though both Balch and McGinniss had been called to testify by the prosecution, they each emphasized that Rosenbaum had appeared to pose a threat to Rittenhouse.

    But Balch said that at one point that evening, prior to the shooting, Rosenbaum had clearly grown enraged with Balch, Rittenhouse, and a third armed member of their group.

    Balch testified that the other member of his group had at one point prevented Rosenbaum from lighting something on fire. Rosenbaum then began shouting at Balch and Rittenhouse when Balch tried to calm him down, according to Balch.

    “When I turned around, Rosenbaum was right there in front of my face, yelling and screaming,” Balch said. “I said, ‘Back up, chill, I don’t know what your problem is.’ He goes, ‘I catch any of you guys alone tonight, I’m going to fucking kill you.’”

    When Binger asked Balch to clarify that Rosenbaum’s remarks were directed at both Balch and Rittenhouse, Balch responded, “The defendant was there, so yes.”


    After Rittenhouse neutralised him by shooting his pelvis, he then decided to execute him on the spot, which was well beyond self-defense.

    Oh, he decided that, did he? You know that forensics confirmed Rosenbaum had his hand on the barrel when these shots were fired, don’t you? As if Rittenhouse shot once, hit Rosenbaum in the groin, and Rosenbaum INSTANTLY stopped attacking him and backed off, and then enough time passes such that it would even be possible for Rittenhouse to think ‘hm, he’s not a threat anymore, but you know what, I’ve decided I want to kill him’ and THEN shot him dead.

    What a pathetic straw grasp. Laughably absurd.

    He then shot two others who believed him to be an active shooter (and he demonstrated he was by killing one of them).

    I like how you left out that the first of the two only got shot AFTER nailing Rittenhouse in the head with a full swing of his skateboard, and that the third only got shot after HE tried to shoot Rittenhouse with his illegally-possessed (unlike Kyle’s rifle, ironic considering how many people still accuse him of having possessed it illegally) handgun, which was literally pointed at Rittenhouse’s head when Kyle pulled the trigger and shot his arm. The fact that Kyle’s reaction time was faster is the only reason Grosskreutz didn’t succeed in his attempted murder.

    Very interesting that you happened to omit every single fact that contradicts the narrative you’re trying so desperately to construct.

    Unfortunately for you and your precious narrative, I’m familiar with the facts, and see right through you.




  • It says so much that had the people he murdered not died and instead killed him they would be able to use the same defense he did.

    LMAO no they wouldn’t! They chased Rittenhouse down as he fled! No jury on Earth would consider what they did self-defense, you’re completely out of your mind.

    He showed up to a riot with a gun, he knew what was going to happen.

    ‘She was walking around with a skimpy outfit, she knew what was going to happen.’

    Victim blaming. Wisconsin is an open carry state.

    What does it say that the argument works both ways?

    Loaded question; it DOESN’T work both ways, especially not when there is only one aggressor.








  • the primary reason he was being threatened was because everyone else saw a random civilian with an assault rifle

    This is simply objectively bullshit, and you obviously don’t live in an open carry state. Nobody gave a shit about his rifle. There is video of him walking around, rifle in plain view, and nobody is even giving him a second glance.

    he knew he was sending a threatening message just being there with it

    More bullshit–even if he was trying to ‘send a threatening message’, he clearly failed, see referenced video above

    he then seemed shocked when people started responding to that threat

    Another lie. NOBODY “responded” to him being armed. He was attacked by a maniac for putting out the dumpster fire said maniac set. Had literally nothing to do with his rifle. And that attack is what caused the two other idiots to try to kill Rittenhouse, and in turn reap the consequences.

    Your delusion that he was this menacing, threatening presence just by existing in Kenosha while having a rifle strapped to him is pure fantasy, period.


  • Kyle decided to insert a rifle into a situation that neither he, nor the rifle, was invited to.

    He had orders of magnitude more justification in being there than any of the three who attacked him. His father lives there, for crying out loud–it’s part of his community. Also, those three came from further away, and have zero ties to Kenosha. They fucked around, they found out. If they had left Rittenhouse alone, he would have continued with his graffiti cleaning, fire extinguishing, water bottle dispensing, and basic medical aid giving, until the end of the day, and gone home. That’s literally all he was doing until a maniac went into a literal homicidal rage in response to a fire he set being extinguished.

    got in too deep and like the untrained and dangerous fool he was, shot his way out of it.

    On the contrary, the way he handled the threats to his life was admirable and respectable, and I honestly don’t know how he could have handled it better than he did:

    • His first response to aggression was consistently de-escalation/fleeing
    • He waited until that absolute last moment to fire his weapon. If he waited literally a moment longer in any of the three instances, he likely would have been killed himself, either by his own rifle (Rosenbaum), another full-swung strike to the head by a skateboard (Huber), or by an illegally-possessed handgun (Grosskreutz)
    • He fired accurately and conservatively, hitting no one and nothing other than his target every time, and firing only a few times. No ‘mag dumps’ here, as you’ll often see police do.
    • His trigger discipline was immaculate in the one video where you can see clearly enough to observe it. The moment Grosskreutz is no longer a threat to him, his finger is immediately off the trigger and back around the guard, as he slowly gets back up to his feet

    If every cop in the US was as disciplined in their firearm usage as Rittenhouse was that day, we’d have way fewer police shooting scandals in this country.


  • Okay, just going to finish up skimming the ACLU statement, which has already demonstrated itself to be shamelessly dishonest, and call it a night:

    • the protests that Rittenhouse took it upon himself to confront <-- Rittenhouse did zero counter-protesting, and did not inhibit any protester’s protesting in any way–ironically, the primary recipients of the water bottles and basic medical aid he dispensed were protesters. To frame him going to Kenosha as him deciding to ‘confront the protest’ is a shameless lie.

    Oh, I guess there wasn’t that much more about Rittenhouse in there. Oh well, don’t feel like randomly truncating bits here and there in my previous comment to fit this in, so second comment it stays.

    Thanks again for actually being open to new information, and actual discussion. An admirable and increasingly-rare trait these days.


  • Sounds like conservatives are more likely to get lied about around here, lol.

    The fact that you tag people for reasons like that just tells me that you’re just another of the people who cares more about “supporting” a political team, than you are about finding and defending what’s actually true, regardless of which ‘team’ that truth may make look good or bad.

    When you find me spreading the kind of easily-debunked falsehoods I’m correcting here, you might have an argument that holds some water. Don’t hold your breath, though.