London-based writer. Often climbing.

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  • It’s not unreasonable for people to object to their communities being turned into giant dormitories.

    Counterpoint: yes it is. All communities are full of houses that are empty for a lot of the time while people go to work elsewhere. My road in inner-city London is exactly like this. The ‘dormitories’ meme is just another NIMBY talking point, I’m afraid, which makes no sense at all. What are we going to do, forbid people to work outside of ‘their communities’ (whatever that means)?




  • I just worry that some people will look at house prices in 4 years, see that they’re obviously not cheap, and then give up entirely/vote in a party that will do nothing. Tackling the issue of decades of low building rates is a significant challange, and housing estates don’t spring up overnight.

    Indeed, the political rewards might not come as we’d like, but they have to build anyway, as it’s just the right thing to do!




  • The things that don’t seem to get built (despite promises)

    But this is flatly untrue. There are laws requiring local authorities to take this into account and they can compel developers to contribute either financially or in-kind. What causes the problems with doctor’s surgeries is not new developments, but austerity, which is why it’s a problem everywhere.

    But even aside from austerity, nimbyism significantly contributes to the problems you’ve identified, at the local level both directly and indirectly. E.g., here’s an example of NIMBYs trying to prevent a school building a garden (a direct example). But, it also happens indirectly:

    • NIMBYs oppose housing, infrastructure and business development
    • Prices rise
    • No one can afford housing in the area
    • People leave for jobs/houses elsewhere
    • Businesses can attract neither investment nor customers, because no one lives there any more, so they shut down, so there are even fewer jobs and more people leave
    • The economic case for maintaining existing schools, hospitals and other infrastructure in the area collapses, so they close
    • NIMBYS complain that their infrastructure has been shut down and that their high street is terrible

    This is the reason that, e.g., many rural schools have shut down. There was a particularly good example within the last year or so of a councillor celebrating preventing a housing development and then, mere weeks later, the very same councillor complaining that the DfE had ordered the local school to be shut down because there weren’t enough children in the village!

    EDIT: A further indirect consequence of NIMBYs causing the kinds of problems they claim to oppose is that you simply cannot have economic growth without development. When so much development is blocked and delayed, it leads to less growth, which means government revenue falls, which means less money for development… etc.



  • There’s no need to indulge in conspiratorial thinking, here. Whatever you think of Mangione’s motives, it seems overwhelmingly likely that he did it and, if so, he will almost certainly be in jail for the rest of his life. There’s no need for them to do anything else to him. It seems as though he acted alone, so a broader anti-terrorist crackdown is possible but unlikely, and even less likely to be effective.

    As for the CEOs, I imagine a lot more money is going to be spent on security and they’ll probably demand the businesses they work for pay for that, which actually seems fair, as far as it goes.

    While I don’t have any sympathy for the Republicans, they didn’t seem to even consider more gun control even after Trump was actually hit by a would-be assassin’s bullet, so I doubt they will now. They might pass a law against 3D gun printing, but it’s not even slightly enforceable; I believe owning such a weapon is already illegal but, as Mangione has demonstrated, there’s not much to stop someone making or using one.


  • “I think my experience of 18 years of being an independent parish councillor and a district councillor has demonstrated that the system has utterly failed and government is absolutely incompetent for trying to deliver infrastructure services to local people.”

    A typically coherent NIMBY comment, here. ‘The government is terrible at delivering infrastructure. That’s why I’m opposed to the government delivering infrastructure.’

    Also notable that 14 of those 18 years were under a Conservative government dedicated to cutting government services and infrastructure.




  • People feel like there are a lot of these, because they’re conspicuous, but there really just isn’t enough building going on.

    Part of the issue with the low-quality housing is that it’s often in the middle of nowhere, with no connections - because nimbyism has made it impossible to build housing where it’s needed or to build the infrastructure that would improve the quality. So there’s a vicious cycle of: good housing is blocked > low-quality housing is built > people point to low-quality housing as a reason to block more developments > good housing is blocked…






  • The government is taking biodiversity seriously by banning bee-killing pesticides, encouraging a shift to regenerative farming and through their commitment to green energy generally. They’ve also promised to make considerations around biodiversity part of the new planning policy.

    What they have to stop is the use of biodiversity as a mere excuse for nimbyism. And, yes, this will entail building on some ‘green’ land. However, just because there’s a bit of grass on something doesn’t necessarily make it particularly biodiverse. We’ll do far more for biodiversity by making protected green land truly biodiverse (rather than vast areas of near-dead monocultures, which is what all too much ‘green space’ in the UK actually is) while building good homes on some of the low-quality green space - which is the plan.