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  • simon_greenwoodtoUK Public TransportHow did Nottingham do it?
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    11 months ago

    I don’t really know, I’m sure it’s in the local paper archives. I lived in South Yorkshire at the time and the joint councils also decided to do a similar thing, and while fares increased (from 10p for adults and 2p for children for most journeys) it still seemed the right thing to do. In comparison Leeds sold off the transport department on day one and the consequences of that are still being seen. Arguably Nottingham allowing a bit of transport business investment may have fended off Stagecoach and First from forming monopolies like they have in many places.


  • simon_greenwoodtoUK Public TransportHow did Nottingham do it?
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    Nottingham has had good municipal transport for a very long time. When deregulation came along in 1986 the council chose to keep the service as a wholly owned company where other cities sold their transport departments off. It expanded by buying bus companies in the surrounding county and in 2001 Transdev, who own Trent Barton, the largest private operator in the county, bought a 5% stake in NCT. Transdev are pretty good at branding and brought that to the business. Like Newcastle, Sheffield and Manchester the city also decided to invest in converting the local train network into a light rail/tram system. A large part of it is having a progressive outlook, I think. It would be difficult to recover that now for many cities, where infrastructure has been built over, and there just isn’t the money and won’t be while central government doesn’t have a national view of public transport.



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