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  • A whole lot of people hate this notion because it essentially frames it as the consumer’s fault, but at the end of the day it kind of is.

    Absolutely. Producers and consumers have joint responsibility for getting us where we are. Climate action requires joint action by consumers and by (or, more likely, against) producers.

    Because politicians follow the money. And they understand voters follow the money. So polls may show that legislation against fossil fuel companies is popular. But politicians look at all the gas consumers buy and ask themselves “what will voters do if we pass fossil fuel legislation and gas gets more expensive”? And then they decide not to pass fossil fuel legislation, because even if voters say they want fossil fuel legislation they know how the voters will respond if that legislation makes their consumption habits more expensive.

    It’s a lot easier to pass higher gas taxes in cities where 90% of residents take public transit to work than in cities where 5% do.

    I was ranting in a different thread about the “discourses of delay” that corporate and right-wing propagandists use to delay climate action. And the fascinating thing is, the idea that only individual consumption matters (the BP carbon footprint ad campaign) and the idea that only the actions of corporations matter (a typical American activist attitude) are both industry propaganda. The former is meant to discourage political action. The latter is meant to discourage individual action. And by framing it as one against the other, propagandists discourage us from taking effective action on either.

    We can do both. We have to do both.


  • Sure. The Google term you’re looking for is called “discourses of delay”.

    Tldr: The propagandists recognize the global consensus, that climate change is real and must be addressed, is too strong to attack directly. Instead, they work to discredit potential solutions and discourage people from acting. The hope is to delay action on climate change until fossil fuel companies run out of oil to sell.

    The four ways corporate propaganda encourages climate delay are by redirecting responsibility (“someone else should act on climate change before or instead of you”), pushing non-transformative solutions (“fossil fuels are part of the solution”), emphasizing the downsides (“requiring electric vehicles will hurt the poor worst”), and promoting doomerism (“climate change is inevitable so we may as well accept it instead of trying to fight it”).

    And here’s the thing. We need both individual and collective action to mitigate climate change.

    Arguing that only individual action can stop climate change is delayist propaganda used to discourage climate action.

    Arguing that only collective action can stop climate change and individual action is useless is also delayist propaganda used to discourage climate action.

    The propaganda takes an extreme position on both sides and encourages people to fight with another instead of unifying and acting - much like how foreign propagandists in the United States take aggressive, controversial positions on the far left and far right to worsen dissent and discourage unity.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2020/08/05/scientists-dissect-the-tactics-of-climate-delayers/

    European scientists last month catalogued what they call the “Four Discourses of Climate Delay”—arguments that facilitate continued inaction.

    1 Redirecting Responsibility

    U.S. politicians blaming India and China, Irish farmers blaming motorists, organizations blaming individuals—these common techniques evade responsibility and delay action.

    “Policy statements can become discourses of delay if they purposefully evade responsibility for mitigating climate change,” the scientists say.

    The scientists label as “individualism” the claim that individuals should take responsibility through personal action. I asked if it weren’t also a discourse of delay when activists insist that individual climate action is pointless, that only systemic action can address the problem.

    That too is a discourse of delay, replied Giulio Mattioli, a professor of transport at Dortmund University. The team considered including it under the label “structuralism,” but decided it’s not common enough to include.

    (Depends on where you are. I’d argue that’s very, very common among high consumption American activists.)

    A fascinating study about how much people have internalized these discourses of delay is here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378024000797#:~:text=Consisting of four overarching narratives,with its own emotional resonance)%2C















  • I think this is more directed to conservatives who claim people are inherently selfish and self-serving, which is why only capitalism works (because it starts from the assumption that people are inherently selfish and will always do what profits than the most) and communism / socialism / anarchism can’t possibly work (because they require people to cooperate instead of exploiting each other for personal profit)

    Besides, the idea that “we should all be forced to pay” for anything presumes a capitalist system where money is exchanged for goods and services. The point is to get rid of that.


  • The UNEP estimates that in 2022, the world produced 1.05 billion tonnes of food waste across the retail, food service and household sectors. The average amount of food waste per capita that year is estimated to be 132 kg, of which 79 kg was household waste.

    Fascinating to note, despite all the inefficiencies in capitalist food distribution and how horrifying entire dumpsters full of stale bread or “spoiled” vegetables are, roughly 60% of all food waste occurs at the household level, that is, because of the decisions of individual consumers on how they handle their own food at home.

    The next time someone tries to argue “individual consumption doesn’t matter” I’ll have to cite this chart.



  • This is why you talk to people - ordinary people - and convince them to (1) buy less plastic garbage (2) vote for restrictions on plastic garbage.

    And then the people you talk to talk to other people and convince them.

    And then those other people talk to still other people.

    And eventually you have a critical mass. And politicians listen to them when they demand changes in the laws. And corporations have less money because enough people are boycotting their products so it’s harder for them to hire lobbyists and bribe politicians.

    And all this starts with you talking to people.


  • If you want change, you need a critical mass of people to demand change.

    If you want a critical mass of people to demand change, you have to recruit people to that critical mass.

    And you recruit people by talking to them.

    You do not have zero control. You vote with your dollars. You vote with your actual vote. And most importantly you talk to people to get them to vote with their dollars and their ballots. When you commit to a cause and you live the values of that cause, you can convince other people to commit to the cause, and they convince other people to commit to the cause, and so on and so forth. That’s how collective action works. That’s how all political change works. This is how you force billionaires to stop polluting and get laws passed that actually help the climate - by getting enough people to support climate action that politicians and businesses have no choice but to yield.

    And you do this by talking to people.

    Christ, the same people who insist get out the vote efforts work will tell you talking about climate change is useless, when it’s the exact same phenomenon - individual action inspiring more individual action and ultimately becoming collective action.