Precisely, I hate Trump and I don’t use the word “hate” lightly here, I reserve it only for people who hurt, kill and maim others en masse with their use of power.

I will resist people like Trump, JD Vance, Steve Bannon, rightwing fascists and most pathetic of all, the grovelling bro-ligarchs…till the day I die.

…but this…this is scary, step away from this ledge of playing a part in silencing discussion on the unimaginable attrocity of the Palestinian Genocide as we in the international community (including US) are just now starting to see the full extent of the horror.

People will hopefully write books about this for the rest of our lives, we will all have a much greater chance of actually embodying the kindness and integrity we hope to embody if we begin to have a serious, difficult conversation NOW or we risk losing ourselves to the slow creep (until it isn’t) of hate and oblivion.

It is absolutely a blatant falsehood because Biden is on the public record over and over advocating a cease fire and a two-state solution.

Ok so now a politician stating something is true makes it true?

Are you listening to yourself?

this is your response? seriously?

Do you realize that this kind of statement spits on solidarity with anyone but cynical centrists?

I don’t know if you actually understand how much you isolate yourself.

Do you think this is going to make conservatives like you who hate palestinians?

Do you think this is going to make people more progressive in their politics than you like you?

Perhaps you believe you are the voice of some less vocal silent majority and those people will find solace in your words? (where I don’t know)

For awhile maybe they will but you are on a quickly disappearing sandbar…

Honey, the thing is when you scream into the void like this with nothing but acidic cynicism, people begin to back away in disgust.

Agreed.

It hurts me to say this but this is an awful and honestly pretty scary failure of moderation in this community.

The stakes unfortunately couldn’t be more serious in this case, we are talking about complicity in genocide here, if you are going to moderate on the topic and you have this simplistic of an understanding of the complexities, you are going to hurt people and do real damage to the world.

No, you can discuss anything you want, but you won’t be allowed to assert blatant falsehoods as true.

Ok fine, then moderate people for claiming the ICC believes Biden is responsible for the genocide.

That is a blatantly falsifiable statement.

If I say I believe Biden to be responsible beyond any reasonable doubt for being among the most crucial facilitators of the Palestinian Genocide that is not a blatant falsehood, plenty of evidence points to that being true and frankly so does a common sense understanding of how power relationships work in international politics.

You can’t just dismiss voices like mine by calling it blatant disinformation and keep a shred of your intellectual integrity.

So we are only allowed to discuss responsibility in the context of a narrow legal definition… on a world news sub?

You are searching for a line between the black and white and you don’t realize you are in a sea of different shades of grey.

The question over whether Biden is responsible is inherently subjective and even if it wasn’t an authorities’ conclusion that Biden is or isn’t responsible for the Palestinian genocide is inherently subjective…and subject to interests that may influence and distort a picture of the truth.

Also, what would happen if the legal definition of responsibility was unethical and unjust and you knew it? Would you still moderate according to those rules even if they violated your core values?

The law is a record of political and human struggle, there is nothing about it that makes it somehow impervious to bias or corruption like (arguably) the study of pure math or logic is.

What they just said

only a very small fringe believes Biden is to blame for this

You have this so backwards it actually makes my head hurt.

It is a shame you are a moderator in this community given your strange sense of when appealing to an authority for truth is acceptable and when it isn’t.

Like… sure the ICJ is necessary and great but who is to say they don’t believe the US and Biden are directly complicit they just know saying the whole truth gives them zero chance of winning? That is a very simple but reasonable hypothetical and I made it to point out the massive blindspot in your understanding of the world.

Biden absolutely is as directly morally culpable as if he had dropped the bombs himself, you don’t get to play games with escaping culpability when you get the job as president…

and just to be clear, fuck Trump

No but she would have had people like Liz Cheney on stage with her, who are just the somewhat more polite precursor to nazis and harbor the same essential bigotry just more disguised in the language of the ruling class.

Hey to any Palestinians out there I promise I will never let losers like the above person rest in peace.

Fascists will never see you coming out of the night in your acts of resistance because to predict your actions consistently requires actually understanding what makes you tick, and to do that requires recognizing at some level that you have something they do not, integrity in your beliefs, whereas their mental landscape is a barren monoculture of childish hate and bullshit.

Make no mistake if they think twisting the algorithm is going to make the voices of the left less disruptive they have no fucking clue what it is like to fight people who believe in their beliefs because they ernestly think they will help and save people.

We were going at Biden and Harris with kid gloves on because we knew Trump was going to be much worse, but the kid gloves are off and leftists will do everything up to and including dying for what we think is right… because we aren’t full of shit like the cowards in power are.

I dare them to kick us out of social media conversations, we are just going to become more radicalized into taking direct action instead of asking nicely.

For real, centrists are often insufferable in their refusal to reflect on their beliefs unless you can prove to their face they hold a small percentage minority view and then they acquiesce like the intellectual cowards they are. That is the reason you call them centrists and not some other word that points to a set of beliefs with any degree of substance.

The Palestinian Genocide is one of these instances.

You’ll notice that nearly all the people who couldn’t stop posting articles about what disasters Biden was engineering in Palestine, and how big a problem it was, are no longer as enthusiastic about the nightmarish future that’s now on deck

I am one of those people and that is a lazy bullshit generalization. The left has gone nowhere and was screaming about this future coming to pass since you before you were born.

no leftist worth their salt thought this was going to end the genocide, where you not listening to anything the left said?

lol, Biden sure as hell didn’t negotiate any ceasefire either, Netanyahu handed it to Trump as a PR gift while Biden sat there smiling.

this is amazingly accurate

For what it is worth I am not trying to dunk on being awkward, introverted or neurodivergent in a way that makes it hard to be confident in “normal” social situations (i.e. a normal defined by people with a brain entirely unlike yours). I don’t mean that kind of computer geek.

The thing is, there are plenty of hot people who would think you are hot for being exactly that precise kind of nerd, or artist, or just different person with a different brain it’s just that interesting and different people are usually shy because of how people treat them for being interesting and different and so it is hard to actually find that other hot cool weirdo and get into a conversation with them. Once you do, you are off to the races into some weird kind of sexy nerdy wonderous relationship and all this incel nonsense collapses in one moment of looking into their eyes.

The losers I am talking about never get to that point because they are never nice enough to a woman long enough to have them gaze into their eyes like that and a whole lot of them went into computers or business…

The people I am attacking are too narrow minded to understand that the reason nobody they are attracted to wants to talk to them is the way they treat the people they are attracted to in moment to moment social interactions and also in political ideology and values.

Computers are cool as fuck, computer people are great, we just need more cool people to dilute and displace the toxicity of this kind of ingrown toxic male masculinity that permeates a lot of video game and computer circles. It isn’t just bad for women, it actually erodes the capacity of the men in these circles to critically think, in otherwords this shit is brainworms.

TL;DR Make Computing Great Again a.k.a. bring it back to it’s roots a.k.a. make it queer, feminine and militantly focused on fighting oppression and totalitarian ideologies again

I mean I take your point but again you are just describing the technical details of localization. The little fiddly bits that can be automated and neatly dealt with by a computer or person with an accountant’s mindset for making sure little things plug neatly and cleanly into other little things. Any concept of “localization” that does not include careful consideration of the vast territory of nuance that surrounds the much easier technical details seems useless to me in the context of solving any actual real world problem.

When it comes to the actual hard parts about localization I am fairly certain almost every computer professional I have ever met or talked to does not understand them. The more successful a computer person is in their career the more they tend to think everything in the world functions like computers and thus they don’t need to try to understand alternate systems or phenomena that don’t adhere to their narrow tool belt of critical thinking strategies that can’t handle even a homeopathic amount of ambiguity or subjective nuance.

These types of people spend all day thinking in programs and then go home and play factorio and they think they are the smartest people in the entire universe, and they are idiots. Very very skilled idiots.