“Muh Human Nature” is a classic debunked liberal argument against socialism/communism. If you think you are ‘left’ then you really should maybe read some theory or watch some youtube videos or something. Second Thought has a lot of good intro to political economy explainer videos.
The larger point is that the workers that lack solidarity (as you claim), are specifically incentivized to think in this way by their boss under capitalism. “Crabs in a bucket” mentality is a good shorthand description of what I am talking about. The capitalists and bosses want workers to be in competition with each other, not in solidarity (think union organizing). This is why I called out your ‘class traitor’ thinking espoused by your comment. Brain worms refers to this. You have bad ideology in your brain due to living in the world of neoliberal capitalism, it has instructed you on how to understand the world. And you seem just fine with following those instructions to the letter.
I’m not arguing against socialism/communism, I’m arguing against the first paragraph in the meme you posted.
If you think you are ‘left’
I don’t.
The capitalists and bosses want workers to be in competition with each other, not in solidarity (think union organizing).
You have bad ideology in your brain due to living in the world of neoliberal capitalism, it has instructed you on how to understand the world.
This is faulty logic. The fact that an understanding of the world includes benefits to capitalists and bosses doesn’t imply that the understanding of the world either (1) is incorrect or (2) came through their instruction. You’ve shown neither of those to be true.
I appreciate it is painful to acknowledge that bosses exploit workers and that one can find comfort imagining that the exploitation is due to factors which can be altered but wishing it to be so doesn’t make it so.
the workers that lack solidarity (as you claim), are specifically incentivized to think in this way by their boss under capitalism
Their boss may well give them an incentive not to cooperate but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other, much more primal forces pushing towards the same end. Looking at the behaviour of workers and all humans for that matter, they don’t seem to need any encouragement in order to step on each other.
So are fellow labourers.
This isn’t “capital”, this is just humans.
Are you familiar with the concept of alienation?
LOL
oh, so how much capital do you own then?
that would explain your deflection as being entirely self-serving if you are not of the working class
otherwise you’re just another temporarily embarrassed millionaire, any day now you will bootstrap yourself to the ruling class certainly
LOL you’ve confused me for someone who cares what you think of me.
I’ve no idea what you’re rambling on about.
Not likely.
I guess you just abide the status quo like a good :LIB: then
keep feeding your
and enjoy the ride I guess
Again, no idea what you’re talking about.
“Muh Human Nature” is a classic debunked liberal argument against socialism/communism. If you think you are ‘left’ then you really should maybe read some theory or watch some youtube videos or something. Second Thought has a lot of good intro to political economy explainer videos.
The larger point is that the workers that lack solidarity (as you claim), are specifically incentivized to think in this way by their boss under capitalism. “Crabs in a bucket” mentality is a good shorthand description of what I am talking about. The capitalists and bosses want workers to be in competition with each other, not in solidarity (think union organizing). This is why I called out your ‘class traitor’ thinking espoused by your comment. Brain worms refers to this. You have bad ideology in your brain due to living in the world of neoliberal capitalism, it has instructed you on how to understand the world. And you seem just fine with following those instructions to the letter.
I’m not arguing against socialism/communism, I’m arguing against the first paragraph in the meme you posted.
I don’t.
This is faulty logic. The fact that an understanding of the world includes benefits to capitalists and bosses doesn’t imply that the understanding of the world either (1) is incorrect or (2) came through their instruction. You’ve shown neither of those to be true.
I appreciate it is painful to acknowledge that bosses exploit workers and that one can find comfort imagining that the exploitation is due to factors which can be altered but wishing it to be so doesn’t make it so.
Their boss may well give them an incentive not to cooperate but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other, much more primal forces pushing towards the same end. Looking at the behaviour of workers and all humans for that matter, they don’t seem to need any encouragement in order to step on each other.
You’re not the big human nature understander. You’re just a reactionary misanthrope