• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Then you don’t understand how capitalism works. Companies exist to create capital for the owners and that’s done by producing goods sold to consumers. The system necessitates consumerism because companies have the constant need to sell goods to continue to stay in business. This is something even a child should be able to understand.

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        You know what doesn’t work?

        Communism. LOL

        People that believe communism has a chance in today’s society are like neckbeards who describe their ideal Asian girlfriend as if that girl is actually waiting for them out there.

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        The system necessitates consumerism because companies have the constant need to sell goods to continue to stay in business.

        Consumerism is excessive consumption. Capitalist enterprises depend on consumption but don’t depend on excessive consumption. Therefore consumerism is not necessitated.

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          Again, you don’t seem to understand that companies exist to make profit, and making more profit is a positive from the perspective of people who own the companies. Therefore, excessive consumption is preferable. The mechanics of capitalism directly encourage constantly growing consumption because that’s how companies create profit. This is also why stuff like planned obsolescence exists, and why companies have an incentive to make products that don’t last.

          It’s absolutely incredible that somebody would have trouble understanding how basic systemic pressures work.

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            excessive consumption is preferable

            Of course. But that’s very different from saying it’s either (1) necessitated or (2) fundamental to the functioning of capitalism.

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              Except it is necessitated and fundamental because these are the behaviors the capitalist system selects for. It can’t function any other way.

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                Except it is necessitated and fundamental because these are the behaviors the capitalist system selects for.

                Selecting for a behaviour does not imply that the behaviour is either necessitated or fundamental. What you’re saying doesn’t make sense.

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                  If you can’t make sense of the idea that an outcome that the system selects for is a quintessential property of the system then what else is there to say to you.

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                    an outcome that the system selects for is a quintessential property of the system

                    You keep changing the words you’re using. I’m not going to keep playing shift the goal posts with you.

                    I get the idea you’re trying to convey, you’re just wrong.