• PatMustard
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    9 months ago

    taking money out of service employees pockets

    Doesn’t your employer pay your wage?

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      9 months ago

      No. They pay starvation wages. Server wages in the states is like $2.65/hr. “Well if they hate it just quit!” What person in the US could do the intense labor of serving tables and still survive on that little? Who would want to?

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          9 months ago

          We do. They’re misrepresenting it all.

          Federal minimum wage is 7.25 and the majority of states have a higher minimum wage.

          The $2 number is that in many states tips given can refund back some wage cost back to the business…

          So if you work 40 hours one week… and make 1000$ in tips, the business can take back some of the 290 they paid you for hours. Conversely if you get 0 in tips for the whole week(pay period) they must pay you the full minimum wage… not any reduced amount.

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            9 months ago

            So surely that’s a good reason for nobody to do any tipping, then the employers have to pay everyone the legal minimum wage, right?

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              9 months ago

              I would agree… Except that wait-staff often make well over minimum wage with tips. So you’ll see them here in the comment astro-turfing to keep tipping more and more, even people who claim to HATE customers as they walk in the door (before you even have a chance to tip). I’ve never met a wait staff in person that didn’t like the tipping structure. And even in the comments I’ve only seen one that claims to be current wait staff that wishes tipping wasn’t a thing. Everyone else blames the customer… rather than their boss… for not getting paid more. Which is insane… I as a customer didn’t participate in your hiring, I didn’t negotiate your pay, I didn’t consent to paying your wages. In every other job, IRS requires strict control and knowledge of every penny paid to workers… But for this specific instance it’s “special” and different. It’s absurd.

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      9 months ago

      Alot of states in the US have like the opposite of pro rated minimum wage where they actually are paid less than minimum wage because they earn tips.

      So like a waitress earns $2.75/hour as opposed to $10/hour because she might make that up in tips within the hour. That’s the thought anyways.

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        9 months ago

        So what happens if they don’t make any tips? Surely they still need to make the legal minimum wage?