Your argument is that killing people is bad (under most circumstances). When asked where you would put the line in human development, you name criteria like pain, heartbeat and visual similarity with fully developed human. But when asked about abortion you put the line at implantation, so a blastocyst, which is void of all the criteria you named yourself. That’s rather inconsistent, wouldn’t you agree?
You don’t say. But again, since you don’t recognize basic errors in your logic and happen to be christian - I colloquially use the term christian fundamentalist.
Not really, you are picking down into the details here. I never tried to base an opinion on at what point in extremely early embryo development does life start, but that it definitely doesn’t start the moment the baby leaves the womb. I simply feel that it isn’t right for us to end that life in there deliberately unless there are circumstances such as the mother’s life being in danger. I definitely know for a fact that anything after 21 weeks is not okay, as a child did survive that long out of a mother’s womb. However as technology progresses, we will find that the period will get earlier and earlier. I don’t think we should screw around disposing of embryos and such during the development of embryos/foetuses. It’s not right for us to toy around with life like that, whether it be euthanasia, abortion or the death penalty. Human life should never be taken away lightly or unnecessarily, no matter what the stage.
Almost there, but I take it. Don’t you think that it’s not the best things to impose rules on others based on feelings? Ever thought about other people feeling differently and their feelings being as valid as yours?
whether it be euthanasia
Like I said, christian compassion - let people suffer whether or not they want it. I know Jesus was into some kinky masochism, but the key was that he has chosen his suffering himself, he didn’t chose suffering for others.
Yes, we shouldn’t impose rules on others based on feelings. That’s why we shouldn’t take their lives from them without their consent. Abortion isn’t the mother’s right to choose, along with the death penalty and involuntary euthanasia (whether be coerced or otherwise)
But you define when cells becomes humans based on your feelings, even admitted to have little idea about biology - but jet you feel confident enough to impose those believes into an extreme personal and intimate decision of others. If abortion is not mothers right to choose, it’s definitely not yours. The same goes for euthanasia - it’s everyones right to not suffer anymore, not your decision to make.
The mother can choose whether or not to get pregnant. If a mother wanted to smother her child after birth, it wouldn’t be okay. I don’t see how abortion is any different
What’s inconsistent about it? My views are basically “killing people bad”. Is killing people being bad purely a religious belief?
Your argument is that killing people is bad (under most circumstances). When asked where you would put the line in human development, you name criteria like pain, heartbeat and visual similarity with fully developed human. But when asked about abortion you put the line at implantation, so a blastocyst, which is void of all the criteria you named yourself. That’s rather inconsistent, wouldn’t you agree?
I’m not a biologist. Lol.
You don’t say. But again, since you don’t recognize basic errors in your logic and happen to be christian - I colloquially use the term christian fundamentalist.
Not really, you are picking down into the details here. I never tried to base an opinion on at what point in extremely early embryo development does life start, but that it definitely doesn’t start the moment the baby leaves the womb. I simply feel that it isn’t right for us to end that life in there deliberately unless there are circumstances such as the mother’s life being in danger. I definitely know for a fact that anything after 21 weeks is not okay, as a child did survive that long out of a mother’s womb. However as technology progresses, we will find that the period will get earlier and earlier. I don’t think we should screw around disposing of embryos and such during the development of embryos/foetuses. It’s not right for us to toy around with life like that, whether it be euthanasia, abortion or the death penalty. Human life should never be taken away lightly or unnecessarily, no matter what the stage.
Almost there, but I take it. Don’t you think that it’s not the best things to impose rules on others based on feelings? Ever thought about other people feeling differently and their feelings being as valid as yours?
Like I said, christian compassion - let people suffer whether or not they want it. I know Jesus was into some kinky masochism, but the key was that he has chosen his suffering himself, he didn’t chose suffering for others.
Yes, we shouldn’t impose rules on others based on feelings. That’s why we shouldn’t take their lives from them without their consent. Abortion isn’t the mother’s right to choose, along with the death penalty and involuntary euthanasia (whether be coerced or otherwise)
But you define when cells becomes humans based on your feelings, even admitted to have little idea about biology - but jet you feel confident enough to impose those believes into an extreme personal and intimate decision of others. If abortion is not mothers right to choose, it’s definitely not yours. The same goes for euthanasia - it’s everyones right to not suffer anymore, not your decision to make.
The mother can choose whether or not to get pregnant. If a mother wanted to smother her child after birth, it wouldn’t be okay. I don’t see how abortion is any different