Pride should stem from good personal decisions or accomplishments given one’s situation and life circumstances. Being born somewhere isn’t a decision nor an accomplishment.

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    8 months ago

    I think society would benefit if we all felt a sense of pride in our communities and people in a positive aspect

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        8 months ago

        I can see that. I’m willing to bet the lived experiences of individuals from different communities/tribes/nations/continents/etc. aren’t all that different from one another. Typically one of the arguments for tribalism comes from finding community with people who have the same experiences as you.

        It starts with finding things that make us the same, not different.

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          8 months ago

          I’m not really advocating for tribalism, more patriotism with a respect for other people’s patriotism. So not social nationalism, basically

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            I would like to see a “tribe of tribes”, I guess. People who have all shared lived experiences, regardless of where they are from, geographically. It’s not hard to imagine that someone from another country could have a background similar to my own. Or your own. They could have better or worse experiences than you, or me. And there are some people in the world who do not want us to discover that. They want us to focus on all that makes us different, the experiences we don’t share.

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        8 months ago

        I think we’d need to find aliens first

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      8 months ago

      sense of pride

      • Sense of community? Yes
      • Sense of respect? Yes
      • Sense of responsibility? Yes
      • Sense of accomplishments? Yes
      • Sense of pride? Errrr… Not really.

      When people write “a sense of pride in” I think they (and you) are saying “be responsible for X so you can feel good about it”. Nothing wrong with that, and I think you’re right.

      However I don’t like the phrase. Pride is the wrong emotional target. It brings with it a sense of superiority in some. There’s a reason it’s one of the deadly sins.

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        8 months ago

        Fair, but I think we agree with the sentiment of what I meant.