• In short: Transgender woman Roxanne Tickle is suing social media platform Giggle for Girls after she was excluded from the women-only app.
  • She is alleging unlawful discrimination on the basis of gender identity while the app’s founder has denied she is a woman.
  • What’s next? The hearing is expected to run for four days.

A transgender woman who was excluded from a women-only social media app should be awarded damages because the app’s founder has persistently denied she is a woman, a Sydney court has heard.

In February 2021, Roxanne Tickle downloaded the Giggle for Girls social networking app, which was marketed as a platform exclusively for women to share experiences and speak freely.

Users needed to provide a selfie, which was assessed by artificial intelligence software to determine if they were a woman or man.

Ms Tickle’s photograph was determined to be a woman and she used the app’s full features until September that year, when the account became restricted because the AI decision was manually overridden.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    8 months ago

    More the reverse. If you say “Girls Only” and then exclude a girl, you’ve violated your own terms of service.

      • force@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I define female as one who has a uterus…

        And that’s where you and literally anyone with any medical knowledge whatsoever disagree. There are plenty of people who are assigned as girls at birth who have no uterus – sex characteristics are far too complex for just a binary “boy/girl” label, and it’s not as simple as “no uterus = boy, uterus = girl”. sometimes, a baby can be labelled as any gender and it’s up to the parent to decide which. What a “woman” is is pretty arbitrary and the only accurate classification is entirely dependent on what the person identifies as.

        And that’s just not even considering the fact that hysterectomies exist, meaning a lot of generically cis women also don’t have uteruses.

        • Taohumor@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          it comes across as semantics at best cuz they want people to stfu. Like some people you will not convince them that someone born with a penis and testicles is a woman. Like you can reduce it to only some with xx chromasome but people are gonna go into like the xxy or whatever like the disorders.

      • Jojo@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        8 months ago

        Everyone hear that? Once you get a hysterectomy, you’re not female any more!

      • Cethin@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        I would highly advise you to look into intersex people. There can be people you’d otherwise say are women who don’t have a uterus and people you’d otherwise say are men who do. You can have a penis and uterus, for example. “Basic biology” is a lie you were told because real human biology is complex and varied so its easier to teach a dumbed down version. Even if we assume trans people don’t exist your definition is massively flawed.

        Anyone arguing your position hasn’t actually attempted to understand the other point of view and is arguing purely from ignorance, which isn’t a place you should choose to be.