• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    It’s cursed, it has all of the wierd Bethesda East Coast lore, tone, atmosphere, writing, and style, but on the West Coast, and does the West Coast factions dirty.

    It also canonized some absolute bullshit, but this isn’t a spoiler thread, is it?

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      I knew Bethesda would one day come for the West Coast canon.

      Oh, well. At least we won’t have to argue with a new generation of nerds who missed all the points and blatantly support the fascist factions.

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    I only watched the first ep but I really liked it. I do hate how gory television is these days.

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      Just turn off the bloody-mess perk

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      Silly, over the top gore is a core part of Fallout. Every game after two has a perk called “Bloody Mess” that increases the chance of enemies just turning into a pile of flesh when killed

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          It’s a nod to Bloody Mess the Trait, which allowed critical-specific overkills to happen even for normal kills.

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            Sorta yeah, but critical kill even without the trait would leave and exploded body by chance.

            Silly, over the top gore is a core part of Fallout.

            That’s what I’m replying to, fallout has always been bloody and explosive gore is just part of the base game no traits.

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              Yes, but the trait Bloody Mess literally was in the first games, it was just translated into a Perk for 3 when they got rid of traits. It isn’t a reference to 1 and 2 being gorey, it’s a literal named continuation of the Bloody Mess trait in perk form.

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                As far as I recall there is no dismemberment on crit without flavor text or special weapon on 3+ unless you had bloody mess, on f1-2 is was a lower chance than with the trait but still possible.

                But again my point is that its always been gorey more so if you make the correct choices.

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                  I just think it’s a bit silly to say that, it’s like saying Stimpaks are a reference to Fallout 1 and 2 having health points, and not a literal carryover from 1 and 2.

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        Gore in games always bothers me less, it feels more cartoony. I’m not asking for them to take it out, but I would like a “for babies” mode that blurs it. I felt a little sick to my stomach at a few points.

        My comment from another post

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        Its not just Fallout, I feel like shows in general are a lot more gory now. I enjoy fantasy and sci-fi stories and I love the games, but I also have had to be revived with smelling salts when I saw an incision IRL. I just wish I had a setting to not have to see that boot scene in 4k.

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          That boot scene was pretty horrific. Although I laughed when I they showed Lucy’s horrified reaction because she and I had the exact same face.

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      I also only had time for one episode so far but I dug it. Felt like they really nailed the vibe. I am loving our three main characters too.

      I’m not a huge fan of gore but the violence here felt on par with the game and a little bit slapstick in a way that for me made it less gross and more silly.

      I’m excited to watch more soon!

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    Amazing season. The only thing holding it back (and the only reason I might hold back on hyping a season 2) is the fact that New Vegas isn’t canon anymore. What the fuck guys.

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      What do you mean NV isn’t Canon anymore? >!The show takes place 15 years after the game, plenty could have happened since then!<

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        !I was open to the possibility that things might have gotten to hell after NV, and personally always considered the DUST mod as canon because of it. But apparently they moved the fall of the NCR back to 2277, when F3 took place, before the events of NV. I know people are saying “but it could mean decline!”, but its still weird considering that the NCR we see in NV is still powerfull and active, not a society near collapse. No NCR character in the game ever makes any reference to Shady Sands being abandoned or in ruins or fallen. Its still talked as the heart of the nation. The entire objective of the NCR with Hoover Dam is to provide cheap electriciy to Shady Sands as well. And making New Vegas be a destroyed ruin is still equal to retcon, since it means nothing in the game has any impact whatsoever. No choice is canon, since it doesnt matter:, it all blew up a second later!<

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    Just finished the first episode and I’m excited. Wife wanted to stop for the evening so I’ll have to wait until tomorrow but man I can’t wait to watch more this weekend. I especially liked the Brotherhood of Steal scene.

    Edit: Brotherhood of Steel

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    They decanonized FNV by having BoS nuke the dam at the First Battle of Hoover Dam. Cannot recommend; I refuse to recognize this timeline. Even FO4 recognizes some vestiges of FNV.

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      It’s just so goddamn silly how Bethesda just cannot understand Fallout, and it’s doubly cursed to see the terrible goofy grimdark mess of East Coast Fallout with West Coast factions.

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    I have many negative options of this show. Ultimately, while Lucy was…okay… Norm and chet had my favorite dynamic and didn’t act like complete morons most of the time.

    They seemed to have set out with the intention of making the BoS a slapstick comedy rayher than a serious player consisting of intelligent humans. Especially Knight Titus and Maximus felt like horribly written characters.

    I understand them going for humor but… I feel the slapstick nature of it really took away my enjoyment of it.

    While fallout has had humor in it, I felt it was backseat to the actual atmosphere of its story of surviving the wasteland. In the series, slapstick seems to be all it is.

    Also I don’t understand why they added the thing about ghouls.

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    They make a TV show out of everything nowadays, don’t they?

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    • ⸻ Ban DHMO 🇦🇺 ⸻@aussie.zone
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      Creating a film or TV about a well known video game franchise is a safe bet for film companies as they don’t need to get the audience interested in a new story, just re use an old one that already has some fans who’ll just have to watch it. Probably helps the videogame publisher as well, especially if the film leaves you wanting more

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        I’m not so sure about it being a safe bet. There have been a few good adaptations, but in general I’m very cautious and expect the worst because there has just been so much more garbage that completely ignored everything that made the games great.

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          For someone who never played the fallout or the withcher games should I feel left out if the show runners ignore some of the canons of the games/source?

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            What? Do you mean that the shows would require prior knowledge of the source if the showrunners didn’t ignore it? Doubt it. I mean a book is a book and a game is a game and not a film or tv show, some changes are expected in the adaptation because it wouldn’t work otherwise. But there’s a difference to just ignoring stuff, can still make it low barrier for people who don’t know the source.

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        Of course. It’s just unoriginal. But that’s fine. I don’t have to watch it.

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      I felt the same way, then I saw glowing reviewed, watched a few episodes and it’s good. I didn’t have to be. I didn’t expect it to be. Yet so far it is.

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      Never played the fallout games except for brotherhood of steel. I don’t really know the story. wether they stay true to the game or not is not a big deal to me just like the Witcher.