I’m not taking about democracy without unions. I agree that would be bad. I count unions as part of the democratic process.
I hope the independent testing is done yearly, on random cars, not just once on the design. Chinese manufacturing has earned low trust from me and that will take time to repair.
I also have lower trust in undemocratic countries. Trade alone doesn’t improve how the act, and China is an example of that.
Chinese arbitrary manufacturing mistrust is understandable, but their auto manufacturing standards are consistently independently affirmed as world-class while Tesla roofs and doors randomly fall off vehicles, for a bit of perspective on auto safety and manufacturing methods
Neither the US or the EU require annual testing for tested car models, which I agree would be nice.
It’s not arbitrary, it’s earnt. It’s been cheap reg breaking (and spec breaking) stuff for decades. Things made of “Chinesium” are known for amazing cheapness not quality. It’s going to take a while for Chinese cars to shake off that baggage.
At this point, baseless prejudice against Chinese EVs is just that.
They have high safety ratings, BYD has the highest safety testing Europe offers, they’ve been selling for years in Australia and Europe, and Tesla has doors and roofs falling off, Plus they just issued a recall for literally all cyber trucks because they built the accelerator pedal wrong.
If you don’t trust euro automotive standards, say that, don’t complain about the safety standards set by Europe that Chinese EVs are exceeding.
It is not baseless if there is form with other goods. Let’s not pretend Chinese manufacturing has a good reputation. Time with the cars being good will fix that, but it is still a thing to overcome.
Chinese EVs have been sold internationally for years, they’re performing better than other cars and test better and safer, other companies have failed those tests yet your only concerns are about Chinese cars.
Your “concerns” are simple prejudice by your own standards.
I’m sure over time, if they keep up a good standard, the whole “Chinesium” thing will go away. Would help if other stuff from China was better made too.
The world needs EVs at the price, range and quality these appear to be. European and American companies will only bought a bit of time by fear of “Chinesium” and spyware.
You’re casting aspersions at the wrong people. The companies setting the manufacturing parameters requesting she’s importing the cheap and poorly manufactured products from China are not Chinese companies, they are American, Euro, other countries’ companies requesting poor and unsafe products to sell to you.
Look at Decathlon. A fantastic French sportswear and sports equipment company that designs all of their own products, sends the designs and manufacture specifications to factories in southern China, where Chinese factories manufacture clothing and hiking/sports equipment to those specifications and you have durable, dependable, comfortable sportswear and equipment that matches or surpasses similar products of any country I’ve ever been to.
Or you have Mattel or Walmart or Amazon ordering the cheapest fibers without specifying the manufacturer or design of the product and you have bath mats that give your feet rashes or air fryers that burn out after 3 weeks.
The racist and inaccurate epithet “Chinesium” describes the poor manufacturing requested by Americans, Europeans, and every other country that asks China to manufacture cheap products for them at the expense of quality and safety, not the manufacturing capability or contemporary product range of Chinese factories.
I said right at the beginning of this Amazon, EBay, etc where to blame too. I’d also blame US and EU regulators for not coming down on substandard stuff being sold on these platforms by drop shippers and flyby night companies. China manufacturing has got more tarring than those platforms and I agree it is unfair, but AliExpress is no better and is not a US/EU platform.
I’m not taking about democracy without unions. I agree that would be bad. I count unions as part of the democratic process.
I hope the independent testing is done yearly, on random cars, not just once on the design. Chinese manufacturing has earned low trust from me and that will take time to repair.
I also have lower trust in undemocratic countries. Trade alone doesn’t improve how the act, and China is an example of that.
Got it. A lot of European countries are ostensibly democratic, and the European auto safety testing is fairly rigorous, same as the states.
Heres how they work:
https://www.euroncap.com/en/about-euro-ncap/how-to-read-the-stars/
Chinese arbitrary manufacturing mistrust is understandable, but their auto manufacturing standards are consistently independently affirmed as world-class while Tesla roofs and doors randomly fall off vehicles, for a bit of perspective on auto safety and manufacturing methods
Neither the US or the EU require annual testing for tested car models, which I agree would be nice.
It’s not arbitrary, it’s earnt. It’s been cheap reg breaking (and spec breaking) stuff for decades. Things made of “Chinesium” are known for amazing cheapness not quality. It’s going to take a while for Chinese cars to shake off that baggage.
At this point, baseless prejudice against Chinese EVs is just that.
They have high safety ratings, BYD has the highest safety testing Europe offers, they’ve been selling for years in Australia and Europe, and Tesla has doors and roofs falling off, Plus they just issued a recall for literally all cyber trucks because they built the accelerator pedal wrong.
If you don’t trust euro automotive standards, say that, don’t complain about the safety standards set by Europe that Chinese EVs are exceeding.
It is not baseless if there is form with other goods. Let’s not pretend Chinese manufacturing has a good reputation. Time with the cars being good will fix that, but it is still a thing to overcome.
Chinese EVs have been sold internationally for years, they’re performing better than other cars and test better and safer, other companies have failed those tests yet your only concerns are about Chinese cars.
Your “concerns” are simple prejudice by your own standards.
I’m sure over time, if they keep up a good standard, the whole “Chinesium” thing will go away. Would help if other stuff from China was better made too.
The world needs EVs at the price, range and quality these appear to be. European and American companies will only bought a bit of time by fear of “Chinesium” and spyware.
You’re casting aspersions at the wrong people. The companies setting the manufacturing parameters requesting she’s importing the cheap and poorly manufactured products from China are not Chinese companies, they are American, Euro, other countries’ companies requesting poor and unsafe products to sell to you.
Look at Decathlon. A fantastic French sportswear and sports equipment company that designs all of their own products, sends the designs and manufacture specifications to factories in southern China, where Chinese factories manufacture clothing and hiking/sports equipment to those specifications and you have durable, dependable, comfortable sportswear and equipment that matches or surpasses similar products of any country I’ve ever been to.
Or you have Mattel or Walmart or Amazon ordering the cheapest fibers without specifying the manufacturer or design of the product and you have bath mats that give your feet rashes or air fryers that burn out after 3 weeks.
The racist and inaccurate epithet “Chinesium” describes the poor manufacturing requested by Americans, Europeans, and every other country that asks China to manufacture cheap products for them at the expense of quality and safety, not the manufacturing capability or contemporary product range of Chinese factories.
I said right at the beginning of this Amazon, EBay, etc where to blame too. I’d also blame US and EU regulators for not coming down on substandard stuff being sold on these platforms by drop shippers and flyby night companies. China manufacturing has got more tarring than those platforms and I agree it is unfair, but AliExpress is no better and is not a US/EU platform.