• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Fuckin’ HR nerds can’t even be bothered to do their own jobs and the rest of us have to suffer for it.

    • Godort@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      I don’t blame HR for wanting to make their jobs easier, everyone else does that too.

      I blame HR for not taking time to think about problems that could arise by having a computer judge if a person will be a good fit at the company, which is a famously difficult task, even if you’re intimately familiar with the role you’re filling and all the people your potential hire will be working with.

      • Bluefruit@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Exactly. I and my boss will sometimes use ai for helping to write code and other small tasks but we always check to make sure its right or tweak it before using it.

        Ai is a tool and like any tool you can use it incorrectly. Fine if you wanna use automation but thay automation better be damn near perfect if you’re using it in production and have checks in place to ensure its doing it right.

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          7 months ago

          Yeah, but it doesn’t solve all of our problems perfectly right now so it’s obviously a total and complete waste of money! …/s

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            7 months ago

            Ah yes very good point, we should just throw it out /s

            Yea not a fan of that either. it’s early but the tech is cool and useful for some stuff at least. I’m having lots fun running running it locally for audio transcription and creating summaries for my dnd campaign. (Though i cant seem to get it to work for longer bits atm, still messing with it.)

            Most companies are really just using it wrong or are shoving it into stuff it doesnt need to be.

            • eltrain123@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              I have a friend that uses it to make outlines for stories (with tone, setting, general plot arch, writing style) and then fills in each block of the outline with a well developed story, iterating all the way through until they are happy with it… with his kids, as a bedtime exercise. It’s a pretty awesome exercise where the family spends time together, learns about creativity and how to structure a story, and ultimately comes out the back end with a memory they can share and a story they can pass around to friends and family.

              If you spend the time to learn how to use it as a tool, there is a ton of value in it, even in its current iteration. It’s a tool in the early stages of development. As it matures as a product, there are a lot of gains to be made.

              The social media zeitgeist wants to push it as a terrible thing that isn’t living up to its hype… but it really just shows a lack of creativity and understanding of how to use new tools. Every story I see about how AI is a waste of resources and won’t ever amount to anything just makes me cringe a little bit and shows how disconnected media is from reality. If you can’t find value in a tool, maybe look inward to see if you have some growing to do rather than lashing out at the tool for not solving all of your problems.

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                7 months ago

                That is adorable. What a nice way to have fun with your kids.

                And I agree, if you know how to use it or learn how to use it, there is absolutely value to be had.

      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        7 months ago

        Disagree. If you’re half assing the job you’re supposed to be doing because it’s easier on you, you don’t deserve a pass. Especially when it’s negatively effecting other people like this does.

        Also, generally, screw HR. They exist just to protect the rich they work for and they’ll have you fired in an instant if it means helping out the company in any way.

  • Ech@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    When I went to a career center they said to basically copy paste the job description in this way. Not surprised to see something like this works, too.

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    7 months ago

    This shows a “grandma email forward” level understanding of how hiring software systems work

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      7 months ago

      Yeah most résumé analysis is done through an ATS not raw ChatGPT, those have their own issues but they aren’t just LLMs processing your résumés

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        7 months ago

        This is usually true but small HR departments without fancy tools will often just run that shit through ChatGPT using their personal Google accounts as a login. They don’t give a fuck about privacy from my experience.

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          7 months ago

          Your average small time HR person is either basically the admin for an entire company or some office grunt who just fell into the job. I’m really unsurprised by this as an Organizational Psychologist I’ve basically seen it all in terms of terrible practice.

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            7 months ago

            I worked on HR and got hired to one job by reviewing an employee timesheet. They didn’t obfuscate any private information or names, just handed it to a prospective employee over a lunch interview. The shit they did there was crazy.

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    7 months ago

    You know I’m pretty confident that absolutely no one uses chatGPT to screen applicants. How would that even work, it doesn’t know anything about the requirements of the job.

    They’ve been using software to screen applicants long before GPT was on the scene.

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      7 months ago

      How would that even work, it doesn’t know anything about the requirements of the job

      I rest the case.

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          7 months ago

          My understanding is that most printers will ignore any white in a document but the actual code for the white text or white image is sent. So yeah PDF would contain white text.

          After all some printers are going to be printing on non-white materials and so do have white ink, so they need that information sent over, and the PDF doesn’t know what type of printer it’s going to ahead of time.

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      7 months ago

      It depends on what method it is turned into a PDF, because PDF is a horrendous mess of a standard.

      It is my understanding that PDF can contain anything from PostScript-like markup of text and page elements, to a raster image, depending on how it was generated. It is possible to preserve white-on-white text through a PDF export, if it is configured right.