some highlights (you've been warned)
I don’t begrudge the people who don’t want to vote for him. For those who see their vote as support and complicity, I understand the reluctance. If Biden suddenly said fuck gay and trans people tomorrow, I would not be a happy camper. I would not be happy voting for a politician who hates gay people and deny them their rights.
But I would still do it. And I hope everyone who doesn’t want to vote for him still comes around in November to reluctantly do so.
I honestly don’t even know what to say about this one… liberalism means voting against gay marriage for the sake of preserving the liberal democracy that… ends gay marriage…
Maybe I’m just getting old, but I have no problem seeing the vast difference between the two choices we’re going to be given in November.
No matter how much the children in the room piss and moan, there are realistically only two choices - 3rd party candidates only exist to spoil it for whomever they’re ideologically closer to of the two “real” candidates. Furthermore, Biden has turned out better than I expected - and I’m a Bernie Sanders kinda guy!
the grownups in the room have to make the hard choices and get shit done
Absolutely [I would vote for Joe Brandon]. There’s no other reasonable option. There are other options. None of them are reasonable.
commiting genocide makes you a reasonable option
And let’s not forget the right-wing trolls that shill the propaganda that feed the leftists rhetoric.
the anti-facists are the real nazis
Man I just want to vote for a better candidate not strategically vote so the worst one doesn’t get elected. Why tf isn’t Trump in jail yet
a lib gets so close to understanding
Sometimes life is about making the least worse decision rather than the best one.
and liberals can’t help themselves 
I vote for Pedro
this lib teleported in from 2004. one of the more reasonable comments too
Imagine how cool it would be if the choice was not between Donald Trump and Joe Biden but instead between Gavin Newsom and Nikki Haley.
i can’t do this anymore even the libs downvoted this one I’ll let you enjoy the rest… if you dare
The most important election of our lifetimes
there are some legitimately decent comments in the thread, so kudos to those few.
unrelatedly here’s my favorite comment… OPs response will shock you!
“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]
none of your fucking business. and before you accuse me of fascism, remember it’s the fascists and authoritarians who demand blind loyalty and vote checks.
I can of course recognize trump is worse than biden. I can also recognize that Biden is still bad, and call that bullshit out. Perhaps Biden should maybe recognize; like any human with a fucking soul that genocide is fucking bad and maybe do what he can to stop it. So far; all we have is vague promises and platitudes while sending increasing amounts of money and arms to the genocidal dickfucks.
congratulations, you provoked me. troll.
I dont need your hate. But Democracy needs your vote.
Torch him for Palestine all you want, AFTER Trump is in the ground and the GOP crumbles.
If you cant swallow your pride, then you deserve MAGAmerica.
Science has finally found it… absolute concentrated liberalism!!!
The worst part about all this guilt tripping is that 2/3 of the country don’t live in states where their vote even matters. When I was still on
there was someone telling me that despite living in a Dem stronghold I had to still vote for Brandon because what if Trump rigged the election but if everyone voted hard enough it would be harder for him to throw out ballots or something.“You need to follow all the rules incase the other guy cheats” like what the hell
I can’t wait for Trump to win. I know he is just as much a Zionist as Brandon but sometimes libs need to be owned.
CW: doomerism
Call me doomer but I can’t be excited for any outcome for any reason. Sure I get to see shitlibs removed and moan but honestly that’s not even fun it’s like twisting a knife. I can barely talk because I was a liberal less than a year ago but fuck, the lack of awareness astounds me, the inability to even consider an alternative is just exhausting to watch.
As always, I’m going to link that Roderic Day article on “Brainwashing” because it’s good to try to sympathize with people and understand why they believe what they believe, even if they are completely wrong.
Honestly, Ion’t have any sympathy for the motherfuckers. If they’re still stumping for Genocide Joe, four months into Biden’s ‘unconditional support’ for Israel’s genocide, four months into the HUNDREDS of hecatombs of Palestinian bodies sacrificed to an Old Testament death god, the blood is just as much on their hands as it is his. From that point forward, I don’t give the first fuck what their opinions are, where they fit into the machine, or why they believe what they believe; they’re genocidal monsters and deserve to be stomped out right next to the other batch of ghouls.
And if we don’t, Amerika’s subjects-of-empire will be the next ones in these settler crackers’ collective scope.
It feels like deep down they subconsciously know it’s real and bidens a monster, and they refuse to believe it because they have too much cowardice to recognize the blood on the wall.
I won’t tell you how to feel, but ultimately I think that an epistemology that lumps people in that way and is, by your own admittance, uninterested in how the machine you oppose works or why its supporters support it, will find itself far less able to actually oppose that machine. If you want to destroy it, it is in your interest to understand it as well as you can.
The way I approach it is a calculus of ‘vulnerable lives saved by ripping out the weed’ versus ‘vulnerable lives lost trying to save fascist souls’. Winning the heart and mind of a fascist means so much less to me than protecting the vulnerable they’d destroy; and the minority grinder will not stop at Palestine. I’m not trying to watch the pace of my community getting fed to it increase because we got jammed up trying to change the stripes on a tiger.
“Winning fascist hearts and minds” as if they have either. Lmao
The way I approach it is a calculus of ‘vulnerable lives saved by ripping out the weed’ versus ‘vulnerable lives lost trying to save fascist souls’. Winning the heart and mind of a fascist means so much less to me than protecting the vulnerable they’d destroy; and the minority grinder will not stop at Palestine. I’m not trying to watch the pace of my community getting fed to it increase because we got jammed up trying to change the stripes on a tiger.
Beautifully said!
