“in Hamas custody”, or killed by Israeli strikes? So far all the hostages have died from actions by Israel. The difference is extremely important in this case and the weasel word title doesn’t help with giving accurate info.
Edit: it’s worth pointing out that this is not OPs fault, but the fault of the news org
The article doesn’t do a good job of clarifying anything, but sounds like they died 10/7?
Israel is just announcing it now.
It’s a propaganda move by Israel to make people think of them as victims again.
Is this true? Seems like it would be difficult to verify.
Well seeing as the org that was giving info related to casualties has been bombed into oblivion, yes it is hard to verify.
Likely killed by indiscriminate Israeli bombing. They don’t know where hostages are being held, so any bomb could be the one that kills hostages, and they clearly don’t care.
It’s the hannibal directive again
So far all the hostages have died from actions by Israel
Some keep ignoring the part where people became hostages.
Some keep ignoring the part where retaliation against a foreign nation conducting genocide against you for 70 years is not only justified and easy to understand, but fucking commendable. If Hamas weren’t in fact backed by Israel, them taking hostages would’ve actually been something to get behind.
retaliation against a foreign nation conducting genocide against you for 70 years is not only justified and easy to understand, but fucking commendable
A retaliation that results in a predictable extermination is not commendable, it’s stupid. Instead of spending resources on rockets they should’ve spent them on building universities that would help them better understand the situation and possible ways to deal with it effectively.
Oh wait, I’m being stupid. Rockets and terrorism all the way it is! Because it’s easier and you get many internet points for calling it a “retaliation”.
should’ve spent them on building universities that would help them better understand the situation and possible ways to deal with it effectively.
First of all… They already had universities. Secondly, how exactly does “better understanding the situation” fix being held in a mass concentration camp?
Palestinians have tried diplomatic solutions in the past, but you can’t force a nation with more hard power than yours to the negotiation table.
The inherent problem with your argument is it doesn’t account for the disparity of both hard and soft power between the two belligerents.
The inherent problem with your argument
Problem with yours is what I already pointed out. You applaud people for doing terrorism (aka killing themselves). You refuse their ability to not jump knowingly into a bear trap with their both legs.
have tried diplomatic solutions in the past
Either they didn’t try hard enough or they could find non-diplomatic solutions. Better ones than doing terrorism (aka killing themselves).
If you accept someone saying the only way out of their situation was doing terrorism (aka killing themselves) then you are not a smart human being.
Problem with yours is what I already pointed out. You applaud people for doing terrorism (aka killing themselves).
This is the first time I’ve talked to you?
You refuse their ability to not jump knowingly into a bear trap with their both legs.
So you are blaming the the collective punishment on those receiving the collective punishment?
If Hamas killing women and children is wrong, is Israeli killing several times more not?
Either they didn’t try hard enough or they could find non-diplomatic solutions. Better ones than doing terrorism (aka killing themselves).
Kinda sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about… It takes two willing parties to negotiate. And in these negotiations Israel has always had more power, thus more responsibility to make peace.
If you accept someone saying the only way out of their situation was doing terrorism (aka killing themselves) then you are not a smart human being.
If you think labeling someone a terrorist changes the actual material conditions that causes this war… Then you aren’t a smart human being.
So you are blaming the the collective punishment on those receiving the collective punishment?
I blame people who did unnecessary stupid things that they knew would cause them to suffer even more. They are not smart. If they were smart they wouldn’t do it that way.
If Hamas killing women and children is wrong, is Israeli killing several times more not?
It’s wrong but they did not start this aggression without reason, and they know they are not suicidal.
It takes two willing parties to negotiate
Sigh. How else should I put it? Don’t do diplomacy if you think you are smart (hamas clearly aren’t) and already tried everything. Do terrorism. But please do it in a way that would actually benefit your cause. In a way that would not make them start another ground operation. I dunno, maybe try to not take hostages and not stream your murders for once? Or maybe release the hostages and surrender god damn it (it should even be possible to keep your lives by surrendering to a 3rd party instead). That would at least send a message to the world and maybe even save a lot of Palestinians.
labeling someone a terrorist
I didn’t do that here. They are just idiots.
What a horrifying disaster.
The fact is that those hostages are mostly if not all dead by now. Which makes any negotiated cease fire highly unlikely.
Great, fuck Hamas terrorists and the leftist terrorist supporters
Hamas needs to be wiped out
No one needs to be wiped out. What’s currently happening is taxing on the side of Israel and is absolutely devastating for the civilian Palestinians.
Peace talks, two-state solution and resignation of Netanyahu are the only ways.
😂😂😂
If only Israel didn’t create Hamas and then directly fund them for decades. They are doing exactly what Bibi paid them to do.
So bin laden was the good guy then too, right?
Once isrsel stop occupying palestine
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All they need to do is end the failed colonization experiment called Israel and theres no need for Hamas
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Palestinian liberation is Jewish liberation. There is no freedom in an apartheid state.
That’s nice
You care about all jews? Even the ones calling for the invasion to end? Do those jews not care about other jews? Help me understand your viewpoint, wise one.
Heh, _sideffect of drinking while pregnant.
Heh, you’re just an asshole
Removed, civility.
Not a single one of them living there is native to the area.
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