• Icalasari@fedia.io
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    5 months ago

    Also remember that the GoP, if they get in, will dismantle the system entirely and probably allow public executions of LGBTQ

    It’s not that people like Joe

    It’s that they want a democracy to remain

    Hell, a lot are probably hoping Joe drops dead of old age shortly into a second term

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      Hell, a lot are probably hoping Joe drops dead of old age shortly into a second term

      I’m not.

      Harris is worse.

      2028 primary can’t come soon enough.

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        Absolutely agree.

        If you’re upset about this election, Vote In The Primary’s!
        Vote in your local elections!
        Make the change happen for next time.

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        5 months ago

        So what is everyone going to say if trump runs again in 2028?

        That maybe you can find someone better in 2032?

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          Regardless of whether Trump runs again in 2028, we should pick a better candidate in the 2028 primaries, like we should have in the 2020 primaries. Maybe this time people will fucking show up for the primaries so we can get a progressive candidate elected.

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      5 months ago

      But the thing is…

      Everyone voting for Biden, would vote for anyone with a D by their name. Even if they had zero idea what that name was.

      So why not run a popular candidate, who won’t do all this horrible shit, and win even easier?

      Like, everyone just accepts that Biden is the only option besides trump.

      And he’s not even a good option. He barely won last time when he didn’t have all the baggage.

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        5 months ago

        So why not run a popular candidate,

        Okay, which popular candidate is running?

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        Me, who remembers Nader and the 2000 stolen election that started kicked off this entire slide towards a fascist state, reading comments and posts like this.

        Don’t gift the GOP the election just because Biden sucks ass. He has sucked ass since always, but he’s better than the literal wnd of American democracy.

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        And he’s not even a good option.

        Oh, boy! I love when people say this.

        Biden took half a trillion dollars’ worth of action on climate change which he funded by taxing Amazon + friends which ticked emissions down to 40% reduction by 2030 which is way too late and nowhere near enough no but he started working on it the instant he got in office and had to do the whole thing twice because Manchin blew up the first much more aggressive one at the last minute so yes we need to do a hell of a lot more but it seems weird to pick out the ONE guy in American government who has achieved ANY level of forward progress and give him and only him criticism about how we can’t possibly elect him especially since the other guy wants to undo even that step and start blowing up the planet even harder which makes me question a little bit whether you REALLY care about climate change or whether your explicit targeting of the one guy who made some progress on it is maybe motivated by something else

        Also there’s student loan forgiveness, 15% minimum corporate tax, 7% increase in wages at the bottom end as compared with inflation even when inflation is at historic levels, NLRB providing legal backing for union activity for the first time in quite a while

        I have a few others on the list. The news talks about a bunch of weird bullshit so the fact that all of that happened is virtually unknown in this country. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, though.

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        5 months ago

        hE bARleY WoN LAsT tImE.

        Biden received more than 81 million votes, the most votes ever cast for a candidate in a U.S. presidential election.