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Has anyone watched the new episode from First Thought/JT?
I wouldn’t say so. Based on how he speaks about Palestine, China, etc. he’s definitely not revisionist; its just this one topic, Ukraine, that he and the other Deprogram boys have a strange stance on, as in its a whole lot of nothing. This is just the one thing they avoid talking about at length and it’s very strange why they don’t.
There are still pro-Russia channels on YouTube, you just need to have a bit of courage and not allow yourself to be intimidated by the prospect of losing your audience if you tell the truth about the Ukraine conflict. Yes you may alienate people who weren’t ever serious about anti-imperialism - those aren’t the kinds of people you want in your community as a communist anyway! let them call you a “Russian shill” or whatever, who cares? - but you will gain by attracting people who respect you for having the integrity to be truthful and say what others are afraid to. And most importantly you do not let the right monopolize the anti-imperialist position.
And if YouTube does take you down, well that’s what alternative platforms are for. I know many alternative platforms get criticized for being infested with right wingers, and it’s true, but they are spaces that will gain more and more importance as the imperialism-aligned corporate platforms continue to purge ever more dissenting voices, so the left should have a presence on the alternatives and not surrender these spaces to the right.
It is extremely poor strategic planning for us to put all our eggs in one basket. That just gives the corporate monopolies carte blanche to blackmail us into self-censoring and betraying our own principles.
And if time and effort were in such short supply why waste them rehashing the same shit we’ve been hearing from the mainstream media for two years? Maybe that could have been skipped and they could have put time and effort into telling us what the MSM won’t? Just a thought…
This is interesting, I will say though, and I hope I don’t come across as harsh towards First Thought, there was no point in making this video since they’re just going to parrot the same surface level information that has been reported ad nauseam. Everyone is well aware of the damages caused by this war but not very many people know why. The “why” is the most important here but it was avoided. There was no reason to make this video, no real new perspective was added, just the same thing we’ve been hearing. Hopefully sometime soon they’ll feel comfortable enough to upload a video going into the internal politics that caused this whole mess and inform the current damages. Thank you for sharing this.
I understand that completely, but my thing is that they can still talk about the conflict accurately without polarizing language that would get them in trouble; it takes a little more elbow grease but it is possible. Omitting terms like “puppet,” “proxy,” etc. goes a long way.
I wouldn’t say so. Based on how he speaks about Palestine, China, etc. he’s definitely not revisionist; its just this one topic, Ukraine, that he and the other Deprogram boys have a strange stance on, as in its a whole lot of nothing. This is just the one thing they avoid talking about at length and it’s very strange why they don’t.
Maybe is because their platforms can be taken down since every pro-Russia platform was taken down from YouTube.
There are still pro-Russia channels on YouTube, you just need to have a bit of courage and not allow yourself to be intimidated by the prospect of losing your audience if you tell the truth about the Ukraine conflict. Yes you may alienate people who weren’t ever serious about anti-imperialism - those aren’t the kinds of people you want in your community as a communist anyway! let them call you a “Russian shill” or whatever, who cares? - but you will gain by attracting people who respect you for having the integrity to be truthful and say what others are afraid to. And most importantly you do not let the right monopolize the anti-imperialist position.
And if YouTube does take you down, well that’s what alternative platforms are for. I know many alternative platforms get criticized for being infested with right wingers, and it’s true, but they are spaces that will gain more and more importance as the imperialism-aligned corporate platforms continue to purge ever more dissenting voices, so the left should have a presence on the alternatives and not surrender these spaces to the right.
It is extremely poor strategic planning for us to put all our eggs in one basket. That just gives the corporate monopolies carte blanche to blackmail us into self-censoring and betraying our own principles.
Actually, nvm, someone just asked him on his server and he replied as to why
Ugh. “Optics” is such a liberal answer…
And if time and effort were in such short supply why waste them rehashing the same shit we’ve been hearing from the mainstream media for two years? Maybe that could have been skipped and they could have put time and effort into telling us what the MSM won’t? Just a thought…
This is interesting, I will say though, and I hope I don’t come across as harsh towards First Thought, there was no point in making this video since they’re just going to parrot the same surface level information that has been reported ad nauseam. Everyone is well aware of the damages caused by this war but not very many people know why. The “why” is the most important here but it was avoided. There was no reason to make this video, no real new perspective was added, just the same thing we’ve been hearing. Hopefully sometime soon they’ll feel comfortable enough to upload a video going into the internal politics that caused this whole mess and inform the current damages. Thank you for sharing this.
A good one in Spanish that I like that was taken down due to pro-Russian sentiment was Ahi Les Va, also RT was banned from YouTube.
The censorship on pro-Russian content has gotten to new heights on the west.
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I understand that completely, but my thing is that they can still talk about the conflict accurately without polarizing language that would get them in trouble; it takes a little more elbow grease but it is possible. Omitting terms like “puppet,” “proxy,” etc. goes a long way.
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