• Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca
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      What do you think Trump will do differently?

      If you’re a single issue voter and still voting for the worst of those two options you’re a baffoon.

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        Will not support this. Do better next time. No, there is no argument that can justify support for those who fund it.

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              I never said that. What I said was… grow up.

              I said nothing about brown kids. Or voting for a genocide supporter. And the fact that you not only feel the need to create such a shitty strawman, but that you actually believe that Biden supports genocide, illustrates how flawed your thinking is.

              But I’ll digress…

              Name ONE persons with the ability to defeat Trump in November and I’ll concede the argument.

              One person- that is currently running- that has a chance to win the White House. Provide a name. Otherwise, admit you are here to disrupt, and walk away.

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                Name one reason Democrats will ever stop supporting genocide when you keep electing their pro-genocide candidates.

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                  Exactly as I thought and as predictable as ALL the others that can’t answer this simple question.

                  You have nothing to say becasue you aren’t here to do anything other the to disrupt an election. If you had ANY belief in your ideology, you’d have provided an answer. But no- just nonsense.

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                    No. Your questions were an attempt to deflect from your failed attempt to condescend to someone for not supporting a pro-genocide candidate (i.e. the “grown up” thing to do). Literally in response to the fact that Biden is funding the starvation of 50,000 children. “Grow up”.

                    Your attempt to look worldly and rely on cynicism to appear politically saavy failed immediately and revealed your disgusting right-wing politics for what they truly are so you pivoted. I’m not interested in playing the stupid game.

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          So you instead choose even more of that with Donald. Or you are saying the Muslim bans and “finish the job” won’t lead to ramping up the attacks? The Christian nationalist heading Congress isn’t looking to start the apocalypse and rapture? Lindsey Graham isn’t saying Israel should nuke Gaza and that the US did nothing wrong in Hiroshima?

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            Maybe that will be enough to shock neoliberals awake as to the reality of what they’redealing with, maybe not, but it’s the only shot we’ve got. We can’t afford any more lesser evil, we’ve reached rock bottom with this genocide.

            We’re not just backsliding slowly, we’re at the bottom of the hill.

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              Ah there it is, if it’s not “Both Sides”, “or voting doesn’t matter”, it’s “we need to burn it all down”.

              What a ridiculously stupid take. You’re absolutely privileged if you can even think that is a viable option.

              Fuck off with that bullshit.

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              Shocking neoliberals awake will do fuckall when they are living under a dictatorship that a (I know you’re confused by this concept) Repub-appointed SCOTUS is considering granting a Long Knife to.

              There will be more genocide and more war. There will be nothing at all anyone can do since the “let’s get the National Guard in” and “deport these protesters to Gaza” guys will be in charge.

              We are literally in a comment section discussing the Repub candidate wanting to execute people over whatever slights. Please get a clue. No, it is not as bad as it could be.

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                They might finally actually admit it’s a dictatorship and start behaving accordingly.

                But yeah, they could cling to their denial. That’s already happening right now though. The shock still has a better chance than the slow boil though, slim a chance as it is neoliberals will ever wake up.

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                  That’s so delusional. “Sure, it will become a full Christofascist theocracy, but people might become aware of that, so it is better.” You have childish hot takes on the matter.

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                    How is it childish? What’s more dangerous; a public that sliwly acclimates to fascism or one that is shocked into action at its immediacy?

                    All you have to offer is more slow decline. That’s the opposite of what I want. This conversation kind of demonstrates why the only hail-mary left is shocking you guys back to reality. It’s literally the only option you’ve left anti-fascists.

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      Bet it’ll be FAR worse if you get your way and Trump is elected. But along with it being worse, you can say goodbye to the LGBTQ+ and any body autonomy women have remaining.

      You have NO idea what’s going on here. They’re playing with live ammo buddy. This isn’t a joke.

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        Women and lgbt people are already losing their rights. I think it’s you who’ve lost your way.

        Look again at what your “lesser evil” is doing. Where it’s gotten us. You’ve literally been pushed so far to the right that you’re here defending the deliberate starvation of tens of thousands of children. You’re completely politically and morally disoriented.

        That’s you. That’s the fruit of your support right there in that image. Go ahead and justify it to yourself however you want when you cast a vote, it doesn’t change the reality of what you’re saying is acceptable for Democrats to support.

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          So name someone better. Come on now, you pulled me up to the pump… let’s get some gas now! Name a candidate. Who can win that will have both the power AND authority to end your genocide?

          Come on. I’m sure you have ideas. You can’t be here ONLY to stop people from voting….

          Right?

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                Huh? I named someone better than a pro-genocide candidate; a literal inanimate object. Unfortunately the DNC has not left us with any electable options, only an old far right genocide supporter.

                How is that trolling? Biden is helping starve tens of thousands of kids. That’s a fact. You might support that, I do not, you can’t rhetorically trick me into thinking that’s ok. You understand that, right?

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                    The hubris is incredible. No amount if declaring a thing will make it true.

                    We’ll be “dOnE hErE” when neolibs stop fielding AIPAC stooges and funding a genocide. You won’t be able to hide from reality until that happens, then we can all go back to your right-wing lesser of two evils bs.

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              So you’ll vote for Trump. Come out and say it you absolute coward. Come out and say you want Trump to win without pretending you’re some faux-intellectual.

              Go plant 🌻🌻

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          Women and lgbt people are already losing their rights.

          Repub SCOTUS is the Dem’s fault, classic.

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            The Dems are just as complicit for not acknowledging or addressing the danger we were in from the Federalist society. First I heard of the plan to capture the courts was almost twenty years ago, people were warning about it, neolibs refused to treat it as a real threat.

            Instead we got idiots thinking they could rely on “decorum” and tradition, on patting their Repub colleagues on the ass like it’s a baseball game, instead of admitting what we already knew; the right is fully fascist and out for blood.

            The loss of the court is the fault of every single dipshit neolib who chose to believe that the courts weren’t a political arm, that they were actually non-partisan. It’s the fault of Ginsberg for arrogantly clinging to power despite being sick for years. It’s the fault of Democrats for refusing even now to entertain the possibility of packing the court or trying to implement term limits on justices by cycling them out to other federal positions.

            They were too busy sucking corporate dick, protecting the status quo and sabotaging progressives like Sanders because he wanted functional healthcare and to take away their binky of lobby money to even see what was happening around them, let alone organize a resistance to it.

            The blind greed and deliberate incompetence of Democrats makes them complicit.