• Baahb@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    It really isn’t so clearcut. You don’t need an actual Jesus for the words attributed to him to be true. “Jesus” works perfectly fine as a container for an idea.

    • Flax
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      Thing is, it goes against man’s desires. The other religions that took off generally allow men to take more than one wife, fight wars, etc. Christianity basically asks of one to be poor and selfless and pure

      • Baahb@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        The context within which you are raised matters so much more than what’s written in your chosen scripture. That and self interest. Between those two, pretty much anyone can wrangle themselves into believing anything they want. The history of how we got here from there is similarly irrelevant.

        • Flax
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          There’s quite a bit of contrast between Christianity and Islam in terms of how scripture is presented, as Islam teaches that the Qur’an is literally the words of God. As for Judaism, it’s unfulfilled, and if the New Testament about Jesus is actually true to what happened, then the Jewish prophecies clearly point to Him. Other than that it’s a very elaborate scam made by well educated people which doesn’t really give them any benefit.

          • Baahb@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 months ago

            Comfort and well-being, or so they believe… for some reason. Personally I like knowing I only get one shot

            • Flax
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              They were all executed horribly

              • Baahb@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                5 months ago

                My parents weren’t executed horribly, what are you talking about about? I’m still talking about contemporary Christian belief. Thesis: You can consider yourself Christian without belief in Jesus as a historical figure. Many Christians are happy to understand Jesus as metaphors and an ideal. Like if you took the actually good Superman stories and removed all the context, you could idealize the individual to the point of worship without believing he’s real.

                • Flax
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  The whole point of Christianity isn’t just to “do good”. The foundation is that we aren’t good enough by nature and are flawed by our own fault, but by trusting in and following God, we can be forgiven. Because Jesus literally existed and was executed for our sins.

                  • Baahb@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    5 months ago

                    That feels a lot like your personal interpretation. You do not get to decide how people who call themselves Christian define themselves.

                    Fables are worth listening to for the morals they include. Why wouldn’t an ancient holy book be a moralistic guide to show the way to heaven, whatever that is which is not defined in scripture