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    In my state (Wisconsin), it’s considered a lemon if it’s no more than a year old and under warranty, and:

    • It has a serious defect the manufacturer or dealer(s) didn’t fix in four tries, or
    • It has one or more defects that prevent you from using it for 30 days or more (the 30 days need not be consecutive).

    Cybertruck probably won’t trigger the first clause, but I wonder about that second one.

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    I saw a dude with a Cyuck (shorthand for cyber truck) at Costco the other day trying and failing to fit his new TV into the bed lol

    At one point he gave up and tried fitting it into the back seat which didn’t fare much better

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    I feel really bad for that one guy who thought it was cool as a concept, put in a downpayment, waited for years, got the financing together while watching Elmo’s mask melting off the whole time and just thinking “I just want the truck, and then I’ll never buy another tesla again”. They get constant price increases and make them all just to see it through, and then . . . They get it. And it’s - well, what it is. And they’re totally screwed and besmirched. That one hypothetical guy I feel bad for.

    The rest of them, /Nelson

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    Tesla just issued a recall for over 11,000 Cybertrucks over a windshield wiper issue. The recall includes all model year 2024 Cybertruck vehicles manufactured from Nov. 13, 2023, to June 6, 2024, which is pretty much all of them given that the Cybertruck deliveries started in Nov. 2023.

    Elon earning that BILLIONS of dollars. 💁🏽 Sir, I salute you. The largest grift ever. I don’t feel bad for a single person that lost money.

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      They voted to give him all that money again after a judge tried to save them. I don’t even understand. No one is worth that kind of money.

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      The largest grift ever

      All of his work has been grifts from the OG X to PayPal and beyond. He just seemed enigmatic or inspired to some people for a time, enough that kool-aid was drunk. (South Africans do have a way of mesmerizing people though, must be the accent.)

      That some good technology happened to pop out of it along the way had less to do with him, and more the engineers tasked with making it happen.

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      I was just thinking the OP article’s author missed an opportunity to mention that for this quality of product delivery, Musky believes he is worthy of a $44.9B payday.

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    This reminds me of the early days of the Model S; a friend of mine was an early adopter and he himself was surprised if it went two weeks without having to bring it in for something or the other.

    Oh, and the dashboards that would occasionally freeze while driving. Luckily, Tesla knew it was a piece of shit, so you could just press and hold two buttons to reboot it.

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      The button press is actually fairly common in most cars. In most German cars (Audi, BMW, Mercedes) it used to be Back+Volume Power… but in all those cases it’d only reboot the infotainment system. Things like the speedometer were a completely seperate, more stable system.

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        In the EU they’re required by law to be closed off from any user manipulation, ie not on the same network as the entertainment stuff.

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    I was curious about what the other recall was since they say again, looks like it’s to do with the truck bed:

    The company also issued another Cybertruck recall, this one for a trim piece along the truck bed which can come loose and fall off.

    At least it’s fairly mundane. I’ve never owned a first run of a new model but still had to take my Subaru in for a recall one time because the airbag would sometimes shoot shrapnel in your face. That was a pretty big one though with quite a few models impacted.

    Hopefully they get these issues ironed out soon so folks can get on with enjoying the vehicle they bought.

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      quite a few models

      Nearly every japanese automaker’s cars for several years. Takata airbag recall was a big deal

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        True! I don’t understand why Japanese cars have the reputation to be so ultra-fail proof. Quite the opposite is true.

        I don’t mean this in whataboutist way, I pray for Elon’s demise so the world can heal.

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          Depending on the model and how you maintain them, some Japanese makes very much last a long time with a minimal of expenses.

          Having daily’ed American, Korean, and Japanese cars, thw Japanese cars have been the most reliable as long as they are maintained.

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            Among those 3 that might be so, although Korean cars since a few years have caught up and are way more fun than the bland Japanese ones.

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              I put the most miles on a Veloster compared to any of my other cars so far - the difference in build quality is still quite noticeable. The car was well designed, but it wore out / disintegrated a lot faster.

              My big metric for cars that last is the “stay fixed” metric. On the Japanese cars, typically they “stay fixed” once you do maintenance. I was repeatedly replacing the same parts on the Veloster that no other far I’ve had would ever experience failure on.

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                If you keep comparing absolute shitty American brands to the Asian ones, of course those will win the reliability contest

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      All in all, Tesla issued four Cybertruck recalls since the car went on sale.

      There was also an issue with the accelerator pedal getting stuck in trim.

      Another was the font size on warning lights was too small (and hard to read,). That one “only” required an OTA update.

      Most of the problems are bullshit you expect in the cheapest cars. That it’s happening on something as expensive as a cybertruck is ridiculous and laughable.

      It’s all 100% avoidable bullshit that should have been caught before hitting production. The wiper motor has a known torque, the driver known specs, literally could have been avoided by reading the specs on everything involved. (Or simply not cheaping out on a wiper motor.)

      Every single CT I’ve seen in the wild or “wild photos” of have had quality control issues. Like bumpers not hung level.

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      When you see recalls from other major automotive manufacturers, you see recalls on models that have a 250k-1M production range. Overall failures in this group is relatively low, so the recall is mostly a cover-their-ass measure to make sure all 500k of some car model is safe, even though they only had a tiny amount of incidents related.

      The Cybertruck - all 11k of them - has already been recalled several times, and it’s issues which affect all of them (or almost all). Tesla being unable to roll out 11k trucks that aren’t Edsels is a huge hit to their reputation at a time when Tesla is already under fire from many different directions.

      Regardless of the absurd design and the fact that owning a Cybertruck is a wholesale endorsement of Musk’s delusional narcissism, I’m confident that Tesla could have pulled this off as a quality vehicle had they tried. At least, a far less shitty version.

      And this is no besmirchment on Tesla engineers, but a criticism of their management and terrible QA process (again, management). It wouldn’t surprise me at all of Tesla engineers said, “X, Y, and Z won’t work or will be crap, so we need to build it better, possibly with a redesign of certain components,” and Tesla execs (esp Elon) just responded, “Fuck it! We’ll fix it in post!”

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        Musk’s delusional narcissism

        Are you saying Musk is like Narcissus? The Greek 16 year old who didn’t want to have sex with anyone? Mate, I’m pretty fucking sure Elon has had sex. With multiple women who eventually grew to hate him, even. One of his kids disowned him for being a transphobe and another has the worst name in the world.

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          Do you really think “didn’t want to have sex” is the important part in the story of Narcissus?

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            Yes, it’s a story about how Greek society was aphobic. Other people felt entitled to his body just because he was attractive. So they asked Nemesis to make him fall in love with his reflection as punishment for being asexual.