Biden looked terrible, and he sounded terrible. Trump lied about 99% of the time. Biden told us what he did for ALL Americans and there is more to come. Trump admitted he cut taxes for the wealthy and destroyed environmental regulations. As a voter, you are voting for the candidate and their administration. The choice in 2024 is, A. Things get better for our Democracy, or B. We install a dictator and voting ends forever. They are not both the same, and NOT voting, or 3rd party voting, helps the weaker candidate win.
I’m voting for the candidate that has been making life for ALL citizens better, that’s the job of the President.
This run down fits with what I saw but biden was better by the end if not great. Trump did a good job though of looking better in a beauty pageant aint nobody want to be a contestant in.
Great, no. Better, undoubtedly.
yeah I should have used but not great not if.
Things won’t get better under Biden though. Strongest argument neoliberals might be able to make is that fascism will arrive slightly slower under their guy.
But seeing how Biden is fumbling it’s very likely he’s going to lose this. He needs to step down. If it’s about the party or the administration then he needs to realize that. If he stays in he is responsible for a Trump win.
Things have gotten better under his first term so I don’t see why it would not. At least for things the president could effect. As far as facism it has not improved in terms of rectifying citizens united but not getting better is a whole lot better than getting way worse.
OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES JESUS CHRIST
And look at what? The genocide he’s funding? The illegal border policy he tried to pass that was identical to the one Trump tried to pass under his term? Or am I suppose to be looking at the past 40 years where neoliberals like Biden have failed to to confront the slow encroachment of fascism and instead chose to spend all their energy and resources undermining progressives in their own party? Or how voting the “lesser of two evils” for all that time has produced zero results?
You’re acting exasperated as if neoliberal democrats aren’t complicit in where we are right now. I think it’s you who needs to open your eyes and understand that neolibs aren’t helping or even buying us more time. The loss of our rights has continued full speed under the Biden admin, and he’s risking it all to satisfy his own ego and fanatical zionism.
No. Biden is responsible for his unelectability and when he refuses to step aside he will be responsible for his loss.
Biden or Trump, which one are you voting for? Oh, that’s right, Russians can’t vote in US elections!
Oh look, the same clown in the same circus. Just come out and say you want Trump to win. All this blabbing you do on every single Biden thread trying to come across as “for the good of the party”. Totally disingenuous.
People like you will be responsible for Trump.
Biden (and his ego) is responsible for the inevitable loss in November, but they will surely blame leftists for not voting hard enough. It’s utterly deranged they expect a candidate such as this to pass muster, but here we are. Biden admin couldn’t even pass voting rights act, after Jan 6 and attempted coups with fake electors plot happened. The incompetency at governing is truly astounding, and this is why I’ll also blame Biden for the slide into fascism.
Things won’t get better for Gaza.
Exactly. They won’t get better either way. But at least they won’t get even worse. Wouldn’t you want that ?
won’t get better either way
jesus fucking christ.
if Biden loses and Trump takes office, he will help Bibi finish the job https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/us/politics/trump-israel-conservative.html
MEANWHILE Biden has been working hard on a 3-step peace plan that includes giving up remaining hostages for ceasefire and then continued ceasefire with more conditions resulting in the end of the goddamn war.
Biden’s throat was sore on debate night from gobbling Bibi’s knob, he’s easily one of the most Zionist presidents in American history. Biden wouldn’t even address Trump’s derogatory comments towards Palestinians during the debate. And most importantly - Biden is presently enabling the genocide. “Trump would be worse” is such a weak argument, even if true - where’s the accountability for the current administration?
yep
They won’t be alive by 2025. Can it get worse?
How is it possible to get worse?
Biden at least tries to save some face, as evident from the recent cease fire push. Trump doesn’t give two shits about optics and would instantly give Israel whatever they want and publicly back then up. It won’t get much worse, because it’s already so bad it’s hard to get much worse, but it will get worse under Trump.
Electing trump will surely show us just how awful life here can be. Watch documentaries about the DPRK and you will see what dear leader wants to become. Freedom will be a memory.
Never ask that question. It’s a flag.
Israel could always round up Palestinians into camps for thier safety preventing them from Leaving. Then provide them jobs… and then kill whomever in gas chambers.
They’re already rounded up into camps. They’re called “safe zones”
Phase 1 complete when they got them all. Watch Isreal offer them jobs and they can’t leave until they paid off some bs
we could stop trying to aid palestinians. we could give israel more than a token amount of military aid. If you don’t think what we do is token compare ukraine to israel. its about 10x (when ukraine stuff is not blocked by a certain party). direct us troops could be involved even if its just killing iranian generals with missiles.
Are you seriously so stupid you can’t imagine ways it gets worse? A) The humanitarian aid we give Palestinians would stop. That is worse. B) The military aid we give Israel could get much higher. C) The tacit approval we give to Netanyahu to commit war crimes could become overt approval, giving him freedom to commit worse atrocities. D) The US could put troops on the ground, which might almost be better since our troops are both better trained AND not so intent on committing genocide compared to the IDF, but in the end is probably worse since Trump would just order eradication of everything.
You want to try and see ?
Let’s burn everything down then. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing up this complex situation for us.
Not what I said, just a reminder that genocide is bipartisan.
You’d think, based on your username, you would be against what Trump stands for, seeing as he’s clearly worse for Gaza too.
I can no longer tell if you’re a provocateur or an idiot, frankly.
For them if doesn’t matter who wins, because if Israel is not stopped there won’t be anyone left in Gaza by 2025.
If it doesn’t matter, then why are you using it as a talking point?
It’s called agitation. I don’t really care who the president will be. What I care about is people realizing that our government is evil.
That’s a tautology when talking about any potential American president
Correct. This is a demon country run by moonstera.
if Biden loses and Trump takes office, yes I agree. Trump will help Bibi finish the job https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/us/politics/trump-israel-conservative.html
MEANWHILE Biden has been working hard on a 3-step peace plan that includes giving up remaining hostages for ceasefire and then continued ceasefire with more conditions resulting in the end of the goddamn war.
Biden is working hard to help genocide the Palestinians. He could end this whenever he wants by not giving them more weapons. He said there was a red line! All lies.
Now let me see your criticism of all the Republicans in Congress who fully support the situation in Gaza. Surprising all I hear are “GeNoCiDe JoE” comments from people like you.
I’m voting downticket for Democrats dawg. Republicans are enemies of humanity and should be rounded up into work camps.
How does Biden take away the guns they already have?
Furthermore, have you even thought about how not giving them more firepower will play out? Because, guess what, it still won’t stop what Israel is doing.
Then send in the UN and forcefully remove their nukes if they’re going to be gonicidal with them. So sick of this argument being trotted out to defend what Israel is doing. Might does not make right.
You are fucking insane if you believe forcefully removing nukes is a good idea.
Imagine saying “might does not make right” after such a belligerent statement, you should think about your words more carefully.
The bombs would run out if Biden stopped giving them more - Israel itself has admitted they need the US to do the genocide.
Yes, they say the quiet part out loud.
It’s so painful to watch Biden attempt to recall accurate information, while watching Trump effortlessly lie.
This is probably the worst Biden has ever sounded, and it was largely because he was trying to remember and repeat everything he could.
Meanwhile Trump just says whatever comes to mind.
Also, what was up with those muffled mics? You could hear it in Trump’s mic too until he started getting louder.
Before the debate they said Biden had had a cold as well.
At one point trump was talking forever. you could see even he was not sure what else to say but he kept plugging along. I was like. isn’t his time up? aren’t they supposed to mute the mics?
I didn’t notice the muffled mics, but I agree with you on all accounts otherwise
The mics were turned off when it wasn’t their turn.
No, I mean both candidates sounded softer than normal. Like the sound was a bit muffled. It was most noticeable at the very beginning before they started talking louder.
Sounds like a noise suppression issue. Probably just a fuck up by the techs.
Interesting, I didn’t notice anything like that. Maybe they screwed up the audio.
its easier to make stuff up than remember details that need to be accurate.
As I’m watching it, Mozart’s Requiem in D minor is playing in my head.
When Biden seemed lost at the beginning, it was the Introitus.
When they were arguing about golf, it was the Confutatis.
When they were both responding to how to help Americans with addiction by talking about restricting fentanyl coming into the country, it was the Dies Irae.
The entire thing was underlined by the Lacrimosa.
The closing statements, the Kyrie. Lord have mercy.
Edit: (Obviously these are not in performance order.)
And russian trolls do their best … or worst right now. And chinese leaders wait and smile.
It’s no conspiracy that Trump dodged almost every question.
This article was published 14.5 hours before the debate
Still voting for Biden. He maybe senile but his heart appears to be in the right place. It’s all I got to work with. 🤷♂️
That’s a very poor wording to describe someone supporting genocide.
Honestly I don’t think he even wants to support Israel’s abuse of Palestine. He just knows he can’t take an extreme stance against them before an election. If he does, he’ll lose a lot of the Jewish and Christian vote.
I hope you are right.
You guys have one chord and think you can record an album.
Who should I vote for then? keep in mind, I would like for this mystery candidate to have a real chance at winning…
Vote for Biden of course.
I was just attacking your words to describe him. Just don’t try to justify it with such lines.
You’re actively working against your own agenda.
How would I? I’m Canadian.
It was a legitimately bad performance from Biden. Every media outlet is reporting how bad it was.
Even if the overall debate wasn’t that bad from him, his few moments of mumbling gibberish will overshadow everything else. Trump rightly pointed out at one point he couldn’t understand anything Biden was saying to try counterpointing it.
Event happens.
Internet floods with conspiracies about Event.
News reports that there are conspiracies about Event.
Rinse and repeat. “Event” can be virtually anything of public note.
just dump them both and their first replacements in a black hole and things will potentially improve.
Yes independent party! Fuck the DNC for throwing our Bernie under the bus
Okay sure, let’s have this discussion.
The first massive favor I’ll do is give you the benefit of the doubt and accept you’re saying this in good faith and not as a right-wing sock puppet.
The next massive favor I’ll do is accept your (ostensible) plan is wildly successful, far beyond what you could reasonably hope for. Everybody is so moved by your comment that you convince 80% of Democrat voters to vote independent and every single one votes for the same independent party. Hell, I’ll even throw in 10% of Republican voters.
The only thing we won’t give you is the ranked choice voting needed to stop your idea being dumb as fuck. We’ll stick to reality for that one.
So tell us how the next 4 years play out in your head. Polls close, votes are counted. Democrats 9.8%, Toothfairy Party 44.1%, Republicans 45.9%.
Then what?
Ahh yes making a good sensible choice in a vote is so rigged, let’s keep our handcuffs on and vote for the puppets they show us
Aww, don’t start being coy, tell us what happens next. Explain how our problems are solved after following your advice. I’ve given you the best possible setup I could, assuming a level of success unquestionably beyond what you’re able to achieve.
Unless you’re willing to give us even a token explanation of the second half of your plan, it really does look like “Republicans win the election” is where your plan ends.
All that does is help Trump, but you know that already. Go plant sunflowers.
Puppet of DNC
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So, outa curiosity…. How many cans of Mountain Dew did Biden slam back?