Not the same instability that's affecting desktop Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh processors.
  • BrightCandle@lemmy.world
    51·
    4 months ago

    Either Intel is extremely incompetent and genuinely has no idea what is causing this problem or it knows full well is doing all it can to drag this out and avoid recalls. This saga has been going on all year now this is getting ridiculous.

    • henfredemars@infosec.pubEnglish
      19·
      4 months ago

      All I can say is I would absolutely not buy an Intel processor right now and maybe not for the next few years.

      It’s just not worth the hassle finding out in six months that your system is unstable and you need to change the processor to fix it, and not knowing if that new chip is any better than the one you just removed.

    • BeardedGingerWonderEnglish
      8·
      4 months ago

      I’d imagine chip design is sufficiently complex that you could both be competent and not have a fucking clue what’s causing this. A recall is bound to be cheaper than the impact this is going to have on customer trust. Not only are they the lower performance chips, they’re buggy lower performance chips.

      • Entropywins@lemmy.world
        5·
        4 months ago

        They have a clue…probably had a clue before they shipped. I chat up the engineers where I work and they always figure out the what, how and why somethings fucked when more than expected failures pop up on a wafer or God forbid in the customer’s production units like a car or radar or medical equipment.

        • trolololol@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 months ago

          Ask the c suite, they’ll say no clue. Ask the engineers, they’ll say give me x time and I’ll tell you why.

  • IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org
    18·
    4 months ago

    So all their products are breaking…

    To be honest, I’m not sure if it would be more concerning for them to have just one fatal issue with their process, or two unrelated ones.

  • Wolfram@lemmy.world
    9·
    4 months ago

    Intel gave more detail to Tom’s Hardware and they updated the article up top. This still sounds a little disingenuous to me, like they’re still trying to minimize the issue with words and no action.

    Gamer’s Nexus has a recent video with some possible explanations.

  • aramis87@fedia.io
    3·
    4 months ago

    If these are known common problems, shouldn’t Intel have accounted for them in their chip design?

  • polle@feddit.org
    2·
    4 months ago

    In comparison. Some time ago when the amd Ryzen 5600 was new, i bought one. There was a bios upgrade problem with some boards, you needed to upgrade the board, otherwise the cpu wouldn’t work. To solve this issue, Amd themselve sent me a cpu to be able to do the bios update myself. I was impressed they did this for someone who bought the cheapest cpu of the new line (it was about 100€)