I wanted to get a pulse check on how new members are finding the general experience/website. Is it more confusing than Reddit or are you finding the instance system a better way of doing things as it can give you more freedom of where you choose to create an account?
I’m a new user myself but have found the experience to remind me of Reddit back in the day, lol. It’s definitely giving me old-school yet modern vibes and it’s great to see something that isn’t Reddit growing in popularity!
I think Lemmy desperately needs to integrate two things:
- The ability to search for communities across instances inside of Lemmy (I’m aware of the search option outside of Lemmy, but that’s less than ideal)
- The ability to easily search within posts A) in all local communities, B) in all subscribed communities, and C) across all communities in the whole Fediverse. Yes, I’m aware that C) is a huge ask. But I think it’s vital to the success of Lemmy.
Have you seen the search option, in the top right corner? Is that not enough to you? It works ok for me.
You can’t discover every community throughout the lemmy’s fediverse that way though. Only the communities that other users previously subscribed/searched for. https://browse.feddit.de/ is the thing to use if you’d like to see everything
The first point is CRUCIAL for setting up your own “scrolling page/account” for, since the instances are only very vague directions, at least while the site is still growing. And in a similiar vein, the second point with B) would be better than manually blocking communities I genuinely have no interest whatsoever in, like fountain pens (unless I don’t know how to operate this site yet).
In fact, C) feels unnecessary because of that right now, since I already see many new communities just in my instance alone. Though it WOULD add things to browse since there isn’t as much happening here, yet…
There’s a learning curve with “how do I know which instance to join?” and then “how do I find communities from other instances?” But I’m getting the hang of it.
What it needs most is a UI overhaul. If Apollo came to the fediverse it would be a game changer.
People are much friendlier here, so far.
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It feels like my experience on Mastodon after Twitter imploded. Hopefully it lasts.
I like the concept
But it feels very much like its been designed by nerdy developers and has had little to no-input on user friendly design.The federated idea can work but it needs to be more seemless than this.
- Communities with the same name should be merged when viewing it from any instance, so you can see all the posts from these communities, they can be moderated seperatley and for advanced users you should be able to select which communities make up the merged community.
- By default you should see all of the merged communities in a central place and be able to subscribe to them easily, at the moment its handled different per instance but you have to seek out these communities to subscribe or follow them.
- I strongly believe there should be a centralised log-in system, so you can log into any instance with an account from another instance, this means if your instance goes down your account is centralised and is safe.
Echoing many things that other users are saying already:
Signing up/choosing a home instance is confusing. I don’t think it’s very confusing conceptually, but it is confusing from a UX/UI perspective. Subscribing to outside communities was the toughest part, I had to find them through a different instance using a search engine, then manually paste the community-specific URL into my home instance search, wait several seconds, then click into the community home page and finally click “subscribe.”
Not something a casual user is going to want or even figure out to do. I trust that many of these growing pains will be fixed in the coming weeks/months. I just hope that it’s not all a flash in the pan and then fizzles out totally.
Once using it though, I like the general feel of it. Better themes and some cleaner UI choices and it will be really nice imo. People are friendly so far and that’s worth a ton right there.
Confusing. There are communities I can’t subscribe to because I can’t access them from my instance, and I have no idea why that is. The experience has been interesting so far, and growing the network is going to be something I’ll be keeping an eye on. For now, though, I’ll have to wait until someone creates the communities I was a part of on Reddit.
Edit: It seems a community won’t show up on your instance’s community list unless someone in that instance is subscribed to it.
Not a fan of Jerboa, but I realize that it’s early days. Hopefully we can get some of the UI people from the 3rd party reddit apps on here to develop a better client.
Yeah. I’ve enjoyed using Lemmy on my desktop, but so far I’m not enjoying the mobile experience as much. But I’ll keep at it as it’ll improve for sure.
It’s not the best experience in the world, but I like it more than the official Reddit app. At least it works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I will make this my first ever Lemmy post:
Overall, this definitely feels like a promising alternative with some growing pains. The bigger communities are decently active but the decentralized nature of Lemmy carries the risk of some communities becoming too fragmented where communities are duplicated in different instances. As some other users have suggested, This could be remedied by creating “Super communities” spanning the Fediverse which could help with growing to a scale large enough to rival Reddit and incentivise even more Redditors to make the switch.
Feels like this might be the fediverse flavor that sticks with me. I tried mastodon and diaspora, but they didn’t stick. Didn’t help that I hated Twitter and Facebook.
This feels chill so far. I like it
Yeah, I was never a Twitter user so I didn’t “get” Mastodon. Lemmy speaks the language I understand and now I really dig it. It’s super cool that I can chill over here and still interact with people on Mastodon to some extent.
I agree with Lemmy feeling chill
I am enjoying it so far. I usually tend to lurk but the community is, as many have said, very welcoming and it creates an atmosphere where it encourages you to contribute (not just with up/downvotes but also comments).
I’m still a little confused but it’s sinking in. The difference between an instance and a “sub”, as well as how to join or interact with other “subs” without having to join each individual instance, was the part that was toughest to adapt to. I love it, though. Lemmy is giving me the feeling Reddit did when I first joined it a long, long time ago on my first ever account. It feels organic.
If you could, maybe you can help me figure it out? I’m still very confused…
So I am just jumping into it myself (and straight into the deep end with running my own server, lol), so this may not be 100% accurate…
My current understanding is that an instance is where you make your account and log in to. The instance keeps track of all the stuff to show you, including things it gets from other instances.
A “sub” (I think called a “community” in Lemmy parlance) is basically a subreddit, but with the added benefit of being able to subscribe to it from any instance due to the whole “federation” thing. For example, this overall post is on lemmy.ml (in their “asklemmy” community), the comment you replied to is from a user on on the lemmy.world instance, you are a user on the latte.isnot.coffee instance, and I am on the lemmy.nrd.li instance. These instances are all sending messages to each other to keep all of our comments/votes/posts/etc in sync so this can all work (mostly) seamlessly.
Can I visit other instances and view/interact with their local posts from this instance? I’m getting the hang of communities but the instances are throwing me for a loop lol
When you subscribe to a a community you can see all posts to that community. You can think of it as the post getting sent to whichever instance created the community, which then distributes the post to any instances that have users subscribed to that community. AFAIK there is no way to view all posts from some other instance other than visiting that instance directly.
You should be able to see all of the posts from communities that someone on your instance has subscribed to by switching to “All” in the community selector at the top of your feed (Subscribed / Local / All).
For discovering communities right now I am just going to the top instances listed on https://join-lemmy.org/instances and seeing what communities are active and interesting. The flow to subscribe to them kinda sucks (you have to copy the community name “!asklemmy@lemmy.ml” into the search on your instance, wait for it to do some sort of handshake, and eventually you can then click into and explore that specific community). Apparently there is also a community browser you can use.
Thank you!
The community browser you mentioned is super useful. Just copy links from there into your search bar to subscribe.
Well, it’s actually a bit simpler than that.
You can directly browse a community that technically lives on another instance without ever leaving your instance.
If you’re on the start page of your instance you can e.g. change between seeing Local, Subscribed or posts from all communities (across instances).
You can click around and browse from there without having to leave your instance :)Thanks!
Yeah absolutely. An instance is kind of your home group. It’s not a “subreddit,” more just a sorting method for links. The “subreddits” are the boards inside the instances, and the instances work to determine their addresses.
On Reddit you might have /r/nfl, /r/actualnfl, /r/realnfl, for example, while here you would have nfl@lemmy.world, nfl@other.instance, nfl@another.instance.
(People better at explaining or who are further along the process of understanding please feel free to correct me and chime in!)
An instance is like your email provider. When you get “messages”, like “a new post was created”, or “your comment got upvoted”, it gets sent to your instance for you to read.
At the same time, instances are also email providers for communities/sublemmies, so when people post in a sub, the instance hosting that sub receives the “messages” from other instances in the Fediverse.
I actually think the double-split between communities/subs and instances is rather unfortunate overall.
I’m guessing, many people will end up subbing almost identical subs on different instances. In my opinion, it would have been better to use instances more as identity providers and let the communities be the first level distinction.
I actually don’t feel it’s organic at all, I have to make an effort to even find this post here on a different instance.
I hope that they can add the ability to create subs that exist in multiple instances. (i.e. !aww@lemmy.lh and !aww@beehaw.org could both have the same posts and mods)
Yeah, this needs to be fixed. There needs to be some way to link between instances and not get your browser stuck on a foreign instance.
I think this might help as a workaround for now. (browser only) https://lemmy.world/post/48816
Interface is better than “new” Reddit, not as good as old Reddit + RES.
If I click on a link on another instance (for example https://lemmy.ml/c/asklemmy when I’m signed in on lemmy.world), I’m not signed in to lemmy.ml so I have to manually search for it in lemmy.world to post there - is there a common solution to that?
I’m enjoying the concept behind the fediverse, and while communities are small right now, they’re eventually gonna get bigger and be more centralized.
I think the UI/UX does need a little more work, but that’ll come with time.
It’s pretty nice. I do hope it picks up more activity of course, but it’s just been a chill and low key sorta thing for me so far. Way less toxic than most other sites I’ve used.
I’ll be honest. While I like the idea of decentralized social stiff, its also a huge issue. First you have to choose an instance, which isn’t too bad, but you can’t move. I hear Lemmy.ml being under pressure and I want to move somewhere else to help.with that. My account is 4 years old though and I can take nothing with me. Additionally this means all my content is on one instance. If that ever goes down, the network as a whole my keep existing, but my user and all I’ve put into Lemmy will be gone. And while I trust Lemmy instances more than reddit in terms of privacy, I’m not so sure when it comes to uptime and longevity. Finally, the whole concept of decentralized is hard to wrap my head around. My instance being separate from others but still being subscribed to communities of other instances feels unintuitive. Its the she issue I have with mastodon. I keep loosing track of instances, communities, apps etc. All with different names and logins etc.
For now, I’m trying to get used to Lemmy and just search for communities I’m subscribed to on reddit and see how it goes. It definitely works well enough. Just some conceptual issues I might have to get used to.