I am a firm believer that there are many privacy techniques you should focus on before encrypted messaging because they will offer you much more “bang for your buck,” things like good passwords, two-factor authentication, and even encrypted email. That said, I still believe that encrypted messaging is a critical part of a well-rounded privacy and security strategy. While the vast majority of our day-to-day conversations may be benign, it can still offer a lot of insight into who we are as people – our routines, likes, and personal thoughts. This information – mundane or not – is worth protecting.

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    If the app implements their own notification system and doesn’t rely on GCM then Google isn’t able to log them as far as I know.

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      UnifiedPush instead of their own implantation would be better for power consumption ig.

      Overall a choice between which Notifier you want to choose would be nice.

      Between the apps own notifier and UnifiedPush (also has a Fallback to GCM if wanted)

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        I can throw a few examples:

        • SimpleX
        • Threema Libre
        • Briar (afaik)
        • Conversations (XMPP client)
        • FluffyChat (matrix client), probably some others too
        • Telegram FOSS (Telegram fork), Mercurygram (Telegram FOSS fork)
        • Molly (Signal fork)
        • Session F-Droid (Session fork)

        So, the answer is — almost every of them.

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          Element X (Matrix client). Basically anything that offers F-Droid or open source release will have builds without built-in notifications. Play Store/App Store builds requires using native notification systems.

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            Signal has a ton of the dependence on proprietary software. You won’t find Signal on F-droid.

            Best option is Molly foss

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              I just run it in the background. It pulls almost no battery so it is a non issue.

              Also getting it to work with Unified push requires extra effort.

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                I would do the same but it uses too much battery for me so I had to figure out how to self-host ntfy and mollysocket.

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                Yeah, configuring a mollysocket requires at least a little self-hosting knowledge.

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          Conversations does not. Its only optionally available for those really shitty phones that otherwise can’t get notifications at all.

          Ah, I got it backwards, sorry.