• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    This has the same vibe as the hundreds of posts that appear on there every single year around the Tiananmen Square massacre anniversary saying stuff like “Reddit is owned by Tencent!!!1! and they’re banning everyone who mentions Tiananmen Square!!!11!!!”

    Yes, the anti-China trolls love to insist they’re speaking truth to power rather than just echoing a bit of recycled propaganda from the 1990s.

    No, that doesn’t change the fact that Rule #1 gets invoked on guillotine posts regularly.

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      3 months ago

      echoing a bit of recycled propaganda from the 1990s.

      Excuse me, I can’t follow. What do you mean by propaganda?

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        “Nobody in China is allowed to know what happened in Tienanmen Square. You’re not allowed to talk about it. Everything is censored. Nobody in China knows what happened.”

        Pure propaganda. This shit is in Chinese elementary school textbooks. Its about as poorly disseminated and heavily censored as the Kent State Massacre or the Waco Siege or the OWS protests in the United States.

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          3 months ago

          I am glad we can agree that the Chinese government is trying to weave a false narrative that all of that has been instigated by mysterious western powers working in the shadows and as long as people stick to that they will be perfectly fine.

          Don’t care about what the yankees have done tho. Don’t know what’s that about all of a sudden.

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            the Chinese government is trying to weave a false narrative that all of that has been instigated by mysterious western powers

            The idea that the John Birch Society single handedly perpetuated the Tienanmen Protests is pretty classic “evil foreigners did this” bullshit propaganda. But I see folks on Lemmy (and even more zealous folks on Reddit) doggedly assert that you can be arrested for saying the words “Tienanmen Square” in public.

            Incidentally, you can link information to the contrary on Reddit, and that’s also grounds for account suspension, given a critical mass of users slamming the “Report” button.

            Every social media site has its orthodoxy and its taboos. Saying anything outside this orthodoxy opens you up to the full toolbox of censorship, depending on the zealousness of the moderators and administrators.

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      3 months ago

      There’s really no point in continuing this, but again, I use Reddit. I see these posts all the time. I’m not saying no one ever gets their posts removed or banned from communities or whatever, but they’re insanely popular to the point someone like me who uses the platforms every few days sees it all the time.

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        3 months ago

        I’m not saying no one ever gets their posts removed or banned from communities or whatever

        That crazy, because that’s exactly what I’m saying. And yet we’re stuck here with you calling me a liar.

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          Why do I do this to myself.

          On Reddit, your account would be banned for contributing to an anti-social atmosphere after two dozen corporate accounts red-flagged this image and reported it to the PR staffer currently operating as the subs moderator.

          This implies every post of this kind gets the user banned on Reddit. That is verifiably false. If that were true or even common enough, these posts wouldn’t be as incredibly popular on Reddit as they are. Shifting your argument so you can pretend we agree is insane behaviour.

          And no, I had never called you a liar until this point. I don’t assume people are liars - extreme world views often lead people to have biased interpretations of reality, but that doesn’t make them inherently evil or liars. Now you are lying, though.