Looking at https://zoom.earth/maps/pressure/

Given the much lower temperatures at the poles, I would expect the pressure to be (much) higher.

I’m reading here and there that air pressure at the antarctic is low because of its high altitude, but these maps show (I presume?) MSLP?

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    the complication is that in meteorology, the volume of gas does not remain the same! if you’re changing the mass, temperature, density, and pressure of a parcel of air, you definitely can’t assume that the volume is constant

    it’s good to use a different ideal gas equation, instead of PV = nRT (pressure x volume = n * R * Temperature)

    we meteorologists tend to stick to unit masses, and use: Pressure = density ×R×T, instead

    i.e. when temperature decreases, pressure decreases

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      2 months ago

      But clearly, on a global scale, the opposite is true? As in, for example, the ITCZ is located at the subsolar point, where the planet receives the most irradiation, and this is an area of low pressure (and convection)? High temperatures -> low pressure.

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        The ITCZ is an interesting case to use here! You’re right that it’s the thermal equator and has low pressure, but you’ve gotta consider convection and wind direction too (i.e. the whole Hadley cell). Convection (caused by solar heating) causes low pressure too, and pressure is often relative.

        When you’re thinking about stuff on a global scale you’ve always gotta consider the global atmospheric circulation

        There’s a lot of good explanation in the link I sent - it’s tricky trying to consider all the variables together, but I would say that variations in density (latitudinally, at least - unless you want to start talking about hydrostatic balance!) doesn’t account for the variation in pressure or temperature.

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      Also, the formula Pressure = density x R x T doesn’t show that pressure decreases as temperature decreases, since a temperature decrease also increase the density?