It wouldn’t hurt to bring this up the next time someone tells you Trump is an anti-war candidate.

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    I know someone who was born in Palestine (but spent most of his life in the US) who will be voting for Trump because, and these are his words, “I just think he’ll be better”.

    Not even worth having the convo.

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      You know they have a big brain because of all the mental gymnastics they do all day, every day

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      If his version of ‘better’ involves MOABs and a giant set of smoking craters in the Middle East, then yes. Trump was the one that launched all those tomahawks on that base and assassinated an Iranian general unprovoked, though, so we kind of already know his MO. In addition to dropping that MOAB in Afghanistan.

      There’s only one choice this fall, and it certainly isn’t Trump.

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      Lmao. Insanity. Man is hella hyped on Russian propaganda. Did he forget about Jerusalem?

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        I doubt he is hopped on Russian propaganda. It comes from the fact that the Middle East was much more stable under Trump (who’s government did try to deescalate tension) versus Biden who called himself a Zionist and supplied weapons used to carry out a genocide.

        Any “but… but” won’t ever make the above statement true regardless if Trump becoming president is the worse outcome for Palestine.

        • Trump’s attempt at making other Muslim countries make peace with Israel without properly addressing the Palestinian question is something Hamas cited as part of their ‘casus belli’, the reason they attacked Israel. They feared that if their supposed “allies” made peace, the Palestinian cause would be lost.

          Trump didn’t really deescalate tensions, rather he provoked some (e.g. the embassy move) and he tried to ignore other rising tensions because addressing those would be too difficult. One can easily argue his actions were the indirect cause of the current mess.

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          Hate to break it to you, but Trump is all in on that genocide. Plus there’s, you know, everything else that makes Trump terrible.

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            You’re obviously right, Trump is worse.

            But it’s hard to deny the cold reality of your comment: You are openly supporting a politician who you admit is genocidal, and you are getting upvoted for it.

            The “lesser of two evils” logic continues to deteriorate the quality of our candidates and their responsiveness to the wishes of the American people.

            Do you see a way, in the future, to break out of this “lesser of two evils” death spiral? Or in 2032 will you be supporting Zombie Reagan(D) because he is less evil than Zombie Hitler®?

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              Ah the good old “but you support Hitler” debating line. Glad to see the mental acuity amongst the Republican supporters matching their leader.

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                Ah the good old “but you support Trump” debating line. Truly you are a paragon of mental acuity.

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              In our current system we don’t really have a choice. FPTP basically ensures there will only be two viable candidates and they’ll come from the established parties.

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        How can you say the rhetoric isn’t better when his rhetoric includes sending anyone who complains to Palestine to be killed with them? He’s literally threatened to kill you for complaining about the war. Had biden threatened to send you into the genocide fields for having the gaul to complain?

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          Good comment, but in case anyone is wondering,

          “gall”, as in gall bladder, as in ‘strong stomach’. Gauls did get stereotyped by romans as complainers I guess.