• phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    19 hours ago

    So here is a question:

    A medical professional examined the person IN PERSON and has a requirement.

    In comes the insurance to tell you your doctor is wrong and that you’re perfectly fine, your doctor is basically lying to you.

    Question: how the fuck did any of this ever become legal?

    • overcast5348@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      You do need some checks and balances because what’s to stop a hospital from profiting off the insurance companies by asking for a CT scan/whatever of every single patient just because they can.

      I suppose we could have the government run the hospitals too. But noooooo, that’s never going to work out because communism or something.

      Maybe we should try effective altruism and accelerationism instead? Let’s just hand over all our money to a few tech bros and then we can go beg them to pay for the scans. And if they don’t pay for it, surely someone will come up with a cheaper technology to do the same. Yes, that’ll definitely work.

      • merc@sh.itjust.works
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        Yes, it’s clear why it’s legal and necessary to some extent. In a for-profit system, a doctor’s office or hospital, every procedure or test the doctor can order (and have the patient pay for) will generate profit. Doctors have an incentive to order as many tests as possible. I assume that most doctors are somewhat honorable and won’t abuse this too much, but they’ll probably still err on the side of ordering as many tests as possible not necessarily because of profits, but because more tests gives them more information.

        Meanwhile, in a for-profit system, an insurance company will generate the most profit by agreeing to as few tests and procedures as possible. So, they will have an adversarial relationship with doctors and will try to arrange as few tests and procedures as possible. My guess is that the average insurance company is less ethical than the average doctor, so they’re probably more likely to refuse to allow tests that are actually medically necessary.

        In a sane system, there would be a neutral referee, the government, who would resolve disputes and severely punish any actor in the system that was behaving badly. But, AFAIK that only rarely happens in the US, where the idea is that the “invisible hand of the free market” will magically make it all work.

        • JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee
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          13 hours ago

          Doctors do not directly profit from ordering tests. They get paid whether they order a test or not.

          You want to know who profits from over testing? Quest Diagnostics.

          https://bergermontague.com/quest-diagnostics-pay-1-79-million-settle-false-claims

          These guys literally defrauded the government, but everyone points their fingers at poor people, doctors, liberals, ethnic minorities, lgtbq people, ect. The problem is corrupt businesses and their CEO’s hoovering up as much money as they can so they can shove it up their ass.

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        15 hours ago

        You could just get rid of the for-profit medical industry entirely and then there would be no incentive to over treat patients.