My personal favorite:
Don’t forget
These boots were made for treading,
And that’s just what they’ll do.
One of these days these boots are gonna tread all over you.
No, that’s not the best Gadsden flag parody. Far from it. Here’s some better ones:
Here’s some of my set
Thanks, those are great too! 😁
“No flying for me” is one I haven’t seen before but it’s definitely a classic
There is no masquerading. Libertarians are just cons/repubs without the religion who smoke weed
Libertarians are just republicans with a better working knowledge of local age of consent laws.
So Diet Republicans.
Politics have been irreparably poisoned by that political compass bullshit.
The opposite of conservative is progressive, not liberal.
Liberals want to “liberate” the market from regulation, which frankly, snuggles nicely with fascists who want slaves back.
Is that why the fascists threw the liberals into prisons or murdered them?
Did that liberals actually call themselves “liberals”? What historic event to you refer to? Or is this just another trick of fascists in disguise to just switch the definition over to “liberal” for unwanted opinion? How is progressive not the opposite of conservative?
Mongoose! Even better!
Drop the G
I audibly laughed.
Libertarians today
A similar shitty Gadsden flag parody was in a protest flyer I saw recently -
What’s clear is that the Right-wing’s whole thing doesn’t exactly attract (good) artists. They tend to borrow and steal most of their iconography rather than make something new1. Strangely, the whole movement also seems to be both unable to execute parody nor see the humor in self-parody, which I assert is a faculty needed to pull off good political art.
So that puts some serious creative power in league with everyone else. Should be interesting.
1 - MAGA is a great example of this. The slogan itself is lifted from Reagan’s 1980 campaign, so it’s nothing new. The current slogan marketing “design” is nothing more than a white serif font on a red field, which in highly-technical graphic design terms is called: “lazy as fuck.”
The slogan itself is lifted from Reagan’s 1980 campaign, so it’s nothing new
…Which in turn lifted it from the National Front’s “Make Britain Great Again,” which is the last time it was actually clever wordplay.
Reagan stole it from an American as well but the theme that everything was somehow better 40 years ago predates this country as a whole by like I dunno the history of the world presumably.
The joke is Britain’s full name is Great Britain.
Libertarian? Isn’t that just Conservative with extra steps?
No, in theory libertarians are pro-choice, pro-LGBT, pro-drugs, pro-open borders.
Not saying that American Libertarians believe those things, but libertarianism specifically supports things that are non-conservative social issues.
Those “classically libertarian” values are referred to as “liberal” values today
Classical libertarians (like from the early 20th century) would be considered anarchists in today’s parlance (specifically anarcho-communists or anarcho-syndicalists)
I’m aware, I was referring to the values they listed specifically in their comment
ah yes my “classically libertarian” brothers vote red up and down ballot. they claim to have those values so they don’t get the hose when they visit
I think you misunderstood me? My point wasn’t that libertarians have those values, because they clearly don’t. Modern Liberals have those values.
That’s good, because actual “right wing libertarians” are just liberals that want to feel special.
Lol so wrong.
I’d care about your opinion on the matter if you could define liberalism.
What about in practice?
They are Republicans.
Outside of the US, yes, there are real libertarians.
American Libertarian policies from that article:
Its cultural policy positions include ending the prohibition of illegal drugs, advocating criminal justice reform,[14] supporting same-sex marriage, ending capital punishment, and supporting gun ownership rights.
Conservatives have over the last couple years taken to labeling themselves as Libertarian to avoid the stigma of being Republican, but have never actually voted for a libertarian.
They’ve(Republicans) taken to calling themselves libertarian(Right libertarians) yes. But they’ve also managed to infiltrate and take a significant chunk of power from the libertarian party.
The problem being that they’re also fully in favour of allowing businesses to do whatever the fuck they want. Even an ideologically “pure” libertarian would support your right to gay marriage while also supporting the right of your landlord to kick you out onto the street for being gay. They’ll support legalization of all drugs, but also support your workplace being allowed to fire you for posting about weed on your social media.
Paying lip service to socially progressive ideas is meaningless if you also want to institute a neofeudalist society where every freedom is only really afforded to the wealthy.
Yes, totally agree. I’m just answering the question on how they differ from conservatives.
Full disclosure, let’s not pretend that Libertarians are any good, even if they are in favor of some good things.
We should eliminate the entire social welfare system. This includes eliminating food stamps, subsidized housing, and all the rest. Individuals who are unable to fully support themselves and their families through the job market must, once again, learn to rely on supportive family, church, community, or private charity to bridge the gap.
The party supports ending the public school system.[161] The party’s official platform states that education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of school choice.
The party also contends that free markets and property rights (implicitly without government intervention) will stimulate the technological innovations and behavioral changes required to protect the environment and ecosystem because environmental advocates and social pressure are the most effective means of changing public behavior.
The Libertarian Party opposes all government intervention and regulation on wages, prices, rents, profits, production and interest rates and advocates the repeal of all laws banning or restricting the advertising of prices, products, or services.
The Libertarian Party favors a free market health care system without government oversight, approval, regulation, or licensing. The party states that it “recognizes the freedom of individuals to determine the level of health insurance they want, the level of health care they want, the care providers they want, the medicines and treatments they will use and all other aspects of their medical care, including end-of-life decisions.” They support the repeal of all social insurance policies such as Medicare and Medicaid and favor “consumer-driven health care”.
The party supports the right of free persons to associate or not associate in labor unions and believes that employers should have the right to recognize or refuse to recognize a union.
The party supports the right of free persons to associate or not associate in labor unions and believes that employers should have the right to recognize or refuse to recognize a union.
If the company can simply ignore a union, then the union has zero power…
Nah, the power in a union is all about denying labor. A strike is the power of the people, not the legal framework which facilitates the talks.
Then the union members can strike until the company stops ignoring them.
Strike in multiple senses of the word
The “fuck my shit up fam” of political ideologies.
It’s weird huh? You don’t really see any Libertarians protesting police violence. Or very many up in arms when the Supreme Court said that the President is above the law. I also don’t recall seeing any headlines about massive Libertarian protests when conservatives threw out decades of established law that a woman had the right to make decisions about her own body. And come to think of it, when Trump said he was going to revoke legal immigration statuses and do mass deportations, the Libertarians were pretty quiet about that too.
It’s almost like Libertarians actually like a government that treads all over them, and the Don’t Step on Snek flag is only about guns.
More like conservatives who like weed.
Without the religion
And somehow even fewer social safety nets
Libertarians, at least in the US, are all about being selfish. “why should I pay taxes to fund schools, I don’t have kids” types. It’s all “me, me, me.”
Insufferable wankers.
Republicans are like that too but they also enjoy telling everyone else what they should be doing. They want to control other people’s access to healthcare, punish them for being the “wrong” faith, sexuality, race, etc.
No, it’s actually less steps. It’s conservative except your brain stopped developing at 12 years old.
Edgy leftists forget that the “treading” in question is state oppression and ergo “I’ll tread where I please” is openly signaling your intention to be the boot in an authoritarian nightmare country part 83,737,478,392,929.
Look I find the gadsen spamming as annoying as anyone else but for the fucking love of god stop pretending like them being media illiterate is a valid excuse for y’all to act media stupid.
Where’s the gator version that makes it into F.A.F.O? Why don’t we get more turnabouts like that anymore‽ Just anything that implies the maker actually goddamn understands what they’re working with and isn’t just going for the perceived easiest “no u!” to an annoyingly overused piece of media?
Your “state oppression” is my “collecting taxes, enacting gun legislation, providing public services and enforcing age of consent laws” and to tell you the truth that sounds pretty good to me
No, my state oppression is the police sanctioning my family being killed for not being right wing enough you fucking gaslighty lunatic.
Especially right now, not everyone worried about this country becoming an authoritarian hellscape is worried about common sense gun reform or minimum standards of medical care, some of us are worried about the fact that the guy who set a lynch mob on the capital is a breath away from having the legal authority to do it next time, and being so damned flippant about Anti-Authoritarian messages really doesn’t make me think you’re taking that very real threat seriously enough.
Fuck all the way off and choke on it if you’re gonna go out of the way this hard for the sake of defending a stupid turn of imagery that doesn’t signal anything except that you feel smug about identifying yourself as a probable bootlicker to be clinging this much to “Imma step on the snek all I want!”
It’s not clever. It’s not cute. Especially in today’s day and age, it’s just fucking tone deaf.
Username checks out.
That’s been happening for decades. Libertarians have only ever existed because the Republicans used to be tacitly against racism.
Actually, that’s been the case for just about exactly 16 years. I watched it happen in real time.
I went through a libertarian phase in the 80s and 90s, mostly because I couldn’t reconcile my anarchist sensibilities with the fact that humanity just isn’t ready to do entirely without authority. I eventually just gave in and shifted to anarchism, since it’s really the only position that’s consistent with my principles, and I just treat it as more of an ideal toward which to strive than an actual immediate goal.
In any event, I knew the libertarian movement of the era. It was more right- than left-wing even then, but it was primarily libertarian, exactly as the term implies - primarily focused just on minimizing political authority.
Then came the Tea Party.
The first Tea Party protests were organized by actual libertarians and were specifically against the Wall Street bailouts in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis that Wall Street had essentially single-handedly caused. And notably, they were against the Bush administration.
But then, shortly after Obama’s victory, with a suspiciously well-timed and widespread boost fron the legacy media reporting on an even more suspiciously well-timed on-air comment by Jim Cramer, the Tea Party was recast into a Republican protest against the left. And it almost immediately transformed from a series of protests against the Wall Street bailouts to a traveling right-wing carnival of hate. (And conveniently enough, the focus on the Wall Street bailouts completely vanished).
While I saw that happen I didn’t recognize the near-immediate Overton Window shift it triggered until I noticed a sudden influx of libertarians on anarchist forums. And they all had the same story - they had abandoned their libertarian forums because they had been taken over by angry, stupid Republicans.
And that became the status quo. The former libertarians mostly settled into their own sub-community of “anarcho-capitalists” and the libertarian movement is now pretty much just angry, stupid Republicans who are only marked out by the fact that they lean more into corporatocracy and militarism than religious fundamentalism and social war.
It sucks having the libertarian party co-opted, the last 4 years the libertarian candidates have been even more Christo-fascist than the Republicans. Happened to the sane average Republicans, and the left wing Democrats as well. Everything is coming up Corpo-kleptocracy.
