I do that (100+ tabs open at any given time) due to my work (research tends to take up a ton of windows) and because I’m too scatterbrained to focus on a single thing at once, but even then I find that Firefox is really good and arguably better than Chrome. Maybe Chrome has improved since I switched over, but Firefox uses significantly less resources than the Chrome that I remember

I have ~800 tabs open in Firefox, no real issues unless I flip through all of them or Tab Groups shuffles them all around. My desktop until recently was over a decade old and the new one is barely any faster.

I have actually always found Firefox to perform better. Especially compared to the RAM whore, Chrome.

People really got to learn how to use Bookmark All Tabs... properly.

If you’re in the middle of something and you got to switch to something else, organize all the tabs to separate windows, and use Bookmark All Tabs... to Saved Sessions folder or whatever you want to name it. This will allow each window to be saved individually. Save it with a date and at topic name, like “20230625 Bread maker” then close the window.

I have a fear of crashing Firefox, restore failing, and losing all my tabs. This fixes most of that.

Using the Bookmark All Tabs... method has help me organize my tabs, makes syncing with devices easier, and has allowed me to keep browsing sessions completely off my mind until I need them again.

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You sound like someone that doesn’t open 200+ tabs of furry adult imagery on e621 while playing processor intensive games.

I mean… I’m obviously not that person either, but it would be cool to have the RAM to support it or the correct web browser if I was that type of person. But I’m not. But having that capability would be nice (not because I need it).

…I don’t look at furry porn.

For years Firefox on Windows had this weird random bug for me where audio just would not work at random times. I tried every fix imaginable. I spent hours crawling the internet trying to find a solution. Couldn’t fix it. I’ve used it on Linux but not on Windows for a few years now; I’m going to be doing a fresh install of Windows on my computer soon, so we’ll see if the bug finally disappears then.

Ever since firefox switched to quantum it’s been great. I would say it outperforms chromium under typical circumstances.

I’ve had 5k+ tabs open at some points, because I just don’t close any of them, and I often middle click as I want to navigate back to the page I was at. Additionally, a lot of sites break the back button, like collapsing comments re-expanding, or it loads slowly and I wanted to look at it quick. Organization is pretty nice with Tree-Style Tab for Firefox.

Every few months I purge all of my tabs, but for the most part, I just don’t care when I have 32 GB of RAM.

non-chromium branch

There’s a chromium branch‽

FIREFOX FOREVER

People complain about Firefox performance and site compatibility all the time and I have no idea what they are talking about. I use both it and other browsers all the time and Firefox for me is the better one.

It is a common misconception, they perform functionally identical across multiple PC’s and updates. People are just slow to change their minds.

Also browsing the web with the uBlock Origin installed, will signifiy improve the speed. Meanwhile protect you from various bad stuff, adds being nonexistent. :)

Check this app & also tick all the boxes within its Settings.

I used to to think the android mobile app was slow. It’s gotten allot better though. Now that it supports uBlock I think it’s the best browser for Android.

I think there were some bad releases many many years ago, but right now Firefox works great. But unfortunately that reputation lingers, and people don’t like changing their browsers often.

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Firefox is slower on synthetic benchmarks compared to Chromium ones but I’ve never seen a noticeable difference while surfing sites.

It’s not slow, people are slow in their heads. Chrome may feel a bit faster but it’s not even what matters when picking a web browser. Will it protect your privacy online? Yes or no.

@blotz @siriusmart I have like 32 gb of high speed ram and my browser would still run slow the last time I used firefox. This was a very very very very long time ago and I have like 400 tabs open but that’s why I have a computer with 32gb of ram to browse the web…

@blotz @siriusmart, speed of browsers are very relative and the differences relay often to certain webpages, security soft or extensions. Anyway we are speaking of miliseconds. But its a fact that most webpages are optimized for the most used engine and this is Blink. This in turn is fed back, so most browser companies in turn use Blink, which is a path of no return.
If you go for speed, neither Gecko nor Blink can compete with, for example, the Otter Browser with an alternative engine and QT5.

Didn’t the memes sub on Reddit end up adding a rule that only allowed original memes (that people have “handmade” themselves), to avoid excessive reposts? Heh.

But the point is that they may seem different but really all are using the same engine. So the order is correct.

I just wish chrome wasnt so fucking useful by comparison. its integration into my android phone is equal to none. the firefox browser on android is ok but it does not integrate quite as well as the whole google platform. then there’s the performance on linux. I hate to say it but chrome feels so much smoother and nicer to use on linux than even firefox does. I’ve tried making the full switch to firefox several times, last time I daily drove it for probably almost 3 months but eventually found my way back to chrome, it was just a more enjoyable experience.

then there is the fact that every website builds their code to ensure it works with chrome, that is one advantage of chrome being the vast majority of the browser user pool, web devs can focus on making sure the one thing works really well.

that all said, just like wine and linux, it is important that we have a completely separate alternative so we’re not entirely reliant should the ship start to sink. I’ve already fully converted to linux and its been my daily driver for a few years now, not looking back. I know plenty of people are still on windows but with ever new release it feels like they’re doing more and more to punch holes in the SS.Windows ship and i’ll eventually be a sinking boat for enough people who see that an alternative exists. Same will need to be said for chrome vs firefox

I actually use Edge as a daily, but I also use Firefox because I want to support them. Unfortunately, Edge and Chrome are superior to Firefox in performance. Edge especially is really really great at resource management, and it doesn’t matter if I have 1 or 700 tabs and windows open. It’ll manage it without any issues. Firefox however, won’t. Sure, it’s rich in features and it’s very very flexible, but it’s not as stable or fast as the former.

Still love Firefox, though!

Single point of failure for everyone with no alternatives is very bad if something nasty happens.

That’s not really true since it’s open source. We have teams from 10+ browsers paying close attention to the Chromium code base. So while people will put up with some nonsense, the community would eventually fork it if they got too far out of line. Deep down, Google knows this and it’s why they have hesitated to implement changes that would negatively affect ad blocking extensions. They are one step away from tons of developers forking their code base.

I think there is nothing like it. It’s not perfect but it’s damn good still.

Do you know of any vi extensions or configs I can look at for Nyxt. The OOB experience isn’t great, but I see the potential. EDIT: Also tree tabs if possible

a little more work and you can make it to 100! keep going, you can do it!

Really, I feel like in Groundhog Day and click every time hopping something will be different.

sadly, firefox is in fact hte lone bastion against the tide of evil. And even now, we need to abandon MS and IOS. I am not even sure Linux is thsat good. We need a new OS which will defeat all virii. Yes, an OS built on completely new mechanics, to again begin the new pc revolution!

opera also used to maintain their own browser engine if i remembered correctly, but they all just dipped

Edge used to be unique, and sucked for it.

Only reason is free access to GPT 4 and Dall-e

On the flipside, atm Edge seems to be the better Chromium choice (if you don’t have a Microsoft hate boner).

Qutebrowser is chromium-based, and barely anyone uses icecat since the modern web heavily relies on JS, iceraven is a Firefox for Android fork, which could maybe have like 50 users and librewolf is unusable for daily usage because of RFP (resist fingerprinting worsens a lot of sites that rely on canvas). (This is just my opinion)

Yeah it lags behind because Chromium is developed by Google, which is the 4th biggest company in the world. And Safari is obviously from Apple which is the largest company in the world. I don’t think the fact that Mozilla lags behind should upset anyone. The fact they can compete at all is impressive I think.

Firefox is behind in some areas, but ahead in others - eg. privacy/tracking.

I see it the other way around. I have a feeling that FireFox follows the specs while Chromium kind of has its own plan and directly introduce new behavior without much care for standards.

Since Chromium based browsers have the majority of the market share, you have the feeling that FireFox is awkward/lag behind. Now look back at Opera when they still have their own engine and you will see that while they try to introduce new behaviors just like Chromium, their limited market share means that people don’t feel the need to make use of these “innovations”.

You want an even more unpopular opinion? I use WebKit based browsers for web developing because of the clarity of the devtools, performance and Interop.

You can go take a look at the web inspector documentation on WebKit.org to check the features.

So one and only thing I miss from Chrome is Lighthouse.

i literally saw it on discord a few seconds ago lol