Discord defends itself against efforts to stop piracy on its platform by saying no to more invasive data collection. Even though Discord isn’t exactly known for privacy, this is a great move for its users. What are your thoughts?
I had a server with a respectable size.
Did a hard cutoff due to some stupid discord thing.
I managed to get a total of 50 people of about 3k to switch and out of those like 7 actually stayed.Yet I had to get a burner account again to get in touch with certain people.
Its all be man.
Sad am forced on this app, I love matrix more.
If they did not collect any information, they would not have any information to give when they are served a subpoena.
How else would they store and sync the information?
Sync from another online user. If each message is signed by the author, there’s a built-in protection against tampering.
It’s really not hard, they just have to care enough to build it that way.
Encrypt it end to end with them not having the keys
They do have to retrieve old messages when new users join though. I’m sure the government can force them to lett them in a server and unlock the roles
Why?
Why is channel history needed for new users?
Back in the IRC days you joined a channel that was just empty, if you wanted the history you had to run an IRC client continously, I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.
If you want the history automatically, you can’t expect privacy.
If you want the history automatically, you can’t expect privacy.
That’s not true, you can pull the history from other users who happen to be online.
At the same time, expecting privacy in a room where a bunch of strangers hang out is already unreasonable. If everyone already in the channel can log the chats, for example by idling in the channel, then adding E2E on top of that is probably a false sense of security.
Because a lot of people go to discord servers to access existing information?
That is a good point, I have never done that, and to me it is just a chat system…
I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.
I still do that today.
90% of the reason I even have discord is because people much smarter than me use it to share information. Nobody uses other areas suited for sharing information anymore. It’s either Reddit or discord.
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Insults, very compelling argument!
Go back to Reddit with that shit!
Discord sucks and nobody should use it.
The only thing that really sucks about it is that knowledge that was openly searchable is now locked away behind logins.
no, you’re also effectively locked out of any participation unless you provide an email address and phone number, which they won’t even tell you about in advance but use dark patterns and gaslighting that they noticed “suspicious activity” to step by step first ask you for an email and then once that is validated they prompt you for a phone number. the only thing they don’t do yet is ask for ID.
I keep trying to take out my phone number because I don’t want strangers seeing that shit, but… then “suspicious activity” gets detyected seconds later…
Validation level is set by server owners, you are unlikely to need to verify a phone number except in the biggest (and therefore spammiest) servers
it doesn’t seem to be server specific because once prompted there is no way to use the account again, even if you decided to just not use a server that may have these settings set.
Odd, I’ve never had that experience. Maybe you’re using a VPN or something that makes your IP look more suspicious.
I say we return to IRC
Discord is a fantastic IRC replacement.
The issue is that people try to use it to replace forums, wikis, personal websites, issue trackers, git, and the kitchen sink, and it does none of these.Exactly. It’s like IRC w/ audio (and probably video now?) chat, and you can post gifs and whatnot. It should be used for discussion, and it’s perfectly okay for that. I would prefer something a bit more privacy focused (again, IRC is decent here, just needs some cryptography), but it’s okay.
But yeah, not a fan of it being a resource for anything beyond meeting like-minded people to have discussions with.
While this is true, Discord has a massive user base, so it’s somewhat a privacy win for the common person
its still the old chicken&egg problem: if you dont have communities you dont have users, and if you dont have users you dont have communities
thats why everyone sticks to discord
Well, you are on Lemmy aren’t you
Well yeah, cuz there are quite a lot of communities and users already
And he’s the only one.
We are all Estebiu alts.
Social inertia and an extra helping of users hate having to learn things.
Matrix is promising, but I think it still could use a bit more polish. That said, I run a discord community, and soon one of these days I’m going to make a Matrix version of it and encourage users to try it out. Though very few probably will.
What’s a good alternative that allows easy instant message, voice and video calls, and makes it easy to group my friends by game?
There really isn’t one, that’s why Discord is so widely used.
I have been using revolt, going to setup my own server once I get better lol, last 3 times have been a cluster fuck to get it working. I got mattermost working the first try but it’s a slack replacement not discord.
I get that they have different target user base, but honestly, what’s the difference?
Roles and permissions. Slack and mattermost is just allowed and disallowed to each channel.
Steam group chat? It’s structured in the same way.
You can create channels for people to join with Steam?
Yeah, if you open the friends window on the bottom it should have a group chats bar with a button to create a server and then it works like discord where you can add additional text and voice channels
Steam has voice channels? 🤯
Your phone.
Discord is on my phone 😭
Not really no. SMS is nowhere near as versatile as a service like Discord in terms of being able to meet new people or have conversations that don’t overload unrelated but potentially interested people with notifications.
Life has gotten better since I dropped it. Moved a dozen or so people over to Signal and have been running with that ever since.
I do miss the ability to easily stream games, though.
The attorney called Nexon’s demands “improper and overly burdensome”
They will give you up in a heartbeat as long as they don’t have to do the extra work of finding you.
Discord isn’t protecting anyone’s privacy just their bottom dollar
Discord is committed to fulfilling its obligations under the law
Of course it’s Nexon.
Well, I have no First Amendment rights, so there’s that.
I’ve never played a Nexus game, and I’m definitely not going to start now. People who are pirating a game aren’t usually doing it bcz they hate the company, or have a vendetta of any kind. It’s usually a money issue. People are more than happy to pay for games when they have money, and you’re not a shit company.
No, it’s a convenience/service issue. Last time i’ve seen a third-party launcher was Mirrors Edge on Steam proton, and that thing failed to run since it wanted to open more than my security limit of 50k files, which no game hit before.
That’s exactly what I’d say if I wanted to catch the bigger fishes.
