And saw a bunch of posts about the third party apps closing down, and lots of negativity about that whole fiasco.
… And I realized I hadn’t been there for a week… And frankly didn’t miss it. I am really loving the beehaw (and Lemmy as a whole) community. Thanks for being open, welcoming, responsive, engaging, and just generally nice people. I’m happy to be here. :)
For a week? I have a reddit account for I don’t know how many years. And I visit reddit only if a search engine points me to it, to answer a question.
If there’s content on Reddit you absolutely must view, I definitely endorse RSS readers. No need for an account and you get rid of the infinite scrolling and data mining of the Front-page view
Wait, I didn’t know that it’s possible to use RSS readers to view Reddit. Just tried it out, and it’s even better than using old Reddit (which I’ve been doing for ages).
Edit: Here’s how to use RSS readers to view Reddit.
If there’s content on Reddit
And there are a lot of content there indeed. I find myself constantly appending
redditorsite:reddit.comto my search engine terms in a desperate attempt to get information from real-ish people and not from SEO shit.
I was just perusing the big AMA with the CEO or whatever the spez guy is. They are not holding up well lmao.
It really seems like they are tying to tackle two issues at once here (LLM training on reddit data, revenue from 3rd party apps) and they aren’t doing a great job at communicating why they are making the API changes. It doesn’t help that the company has a history of making empty promises, so nobody trusts a word they say.
It doesn’t help that they’re lying through their teeth trying to throw somebody under the bus who thought ahead and brought the receipts to the party 😂
Popping my Lemmy cherry!
That ama is what convinced me that reddit is dead, and in like 3 minutes took me from being sad about it to enthusiastically watching it die.
Its funny watching reddit and Twitter implode with mastodon and lemmy we have 2 replacements that are better at being Twitter and reddit than Twitter and reddit 🤣
Same here. I was going to stick around till the end of the month, but that AMA convinced to delete my account today and move on to better things. I made sure to leave a tip in the jar for Christian on my way out.
Welcome! I just came over yesterday because I submitted a report, WHICH WAS ACCEPTED AND ACTIONED BY REDDIT, then got a week ban for abusing the report feature.
I guess they don’t want us tying up resources as they work overtime to alienate the users that make Reddit worth a shit. 🤷
I just got banned from some of my subs for spamming their mod queue by accident… I edited all my visible comments to 4 archive.org links about the API changes. It triggered AutoModerator a zillion times.
I was going to let those comments sit for a bit before deleting my account.
That’s not really related to what you’re saying, but I guess I just wanted to share it with someone!
That sucks.
I had already nuked my 15 year heckload of karma “main” because I ran afoul of a super mod with some fairly innocuous opinion. Got banned from one sub, confused I modmail to ask what’s wrong and how I can fix it, get muted and immediately banned from upwards of 10 other subs. 🤣
Gave em a piece of my mind and killed it, because I’ll be damned if I let some butthurt waffle bully me like the internet is some sorta “real world.”
I wasn’t planning on going back to Reddit, so I don’t really mind.
I feel badly that I wasted mods’ time, actually. Part of the reason I edited my comments with a protest was to support mods.
Hear hear! I’ve been on Reddit over 15 years but fuck it, it’s not worth the neverending fountain of bullshit.
I’d bet my left nut reddit will survive for quite a while yet, probably do even better over time
The kind of people who end up here just aren’t the target demographic for them anymore
Maybe… but I’d guess in the same sense that Digg is still around. You’re right about the type of people migrating here, though - Reddit no longer cares about intelligent discussion, it’s all memes and snark and political outrage. They don’t want an informed populace, they want a populace that can be steered toward whatever they want.
This is not the first mass migration I’ve seen from Reddit, but this is the first one that feels like it might actually stick, for a couple of reasons: First, Lemmy finally feels like a viable alternative. Previous alternatives like Voat were quite abrasive - like I’m all about free speech, but I don’t want to see a bunch of hateful content just for the sake of being shocking. Second, this time they’re fucking with the mods. And while a lot can be said about the quality of the moderation over there, people abhorr being asked to do more with less, especially when they’re working for free. Lose the mods and the site is DONE. It will be overrun with spam so quick it’ll make your head spin, and then the last exodus will occur, quietly. And Reddit cannot afford to replace the unpaid mods with paid mods, they simply don’t have the resources.
It will be interesting to see how things go with Lemmy, but I have hopes - with it being decentralized, if a community becomes toxic or overly-censored it seems easy enough to spin up a rival on a different instance and filter the bad actor. At least that seems to be the pitch, let’s see how things shake out over the next year or two.
I’ve been on Reddit for nearly 15 years (since just prior to the digg migration), but it is nothing like what it used to be - it’s changed, man, and not at all for the better. Lemmy definitely feels more like Reddit of old, and I’m excited to be here - now I just need to find my hobby communities and I’ll have my new internet home. But the communities will come, the apps will come, and I have high hopes. Let’s go!
I’d add a third reason that killing the apps materially affects all the people who were die hard app users. Previous proposed reddit boycotts were over some issue like the site firing the woman who organized the AMAs or some other moderation issue that for the most part didn’t impact the rest of the experience of browsing. It’s easy to forget how one subreddit got ruined or some admin drama because it feels distant from day to day browsing. Taking away the apps is impossible to avoid. App users can’t just shrug about all this drama and go back to browsing the way they are accustomed to. Opening that official app is going to be a constant reminder of how ugly all this was. It will make sticking to a boycott much easier I think.
💯
I’m just hoping that most of my favorite niche subs move to something more decentralized; Reddit has a bunch of specialized communities that I’d hate to lose.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Reddit pulls an insta and starts hiding its content behind an account wall.
I tried looking at comments on a post about Apollo and it wouldn’t let me load more comments without logging in. Guess I just won’t see them since I no longer have an account.
What a shame, end if an era. I’m right there with ya
It’s already what they are trying to do on mobile (first with NSFW content, but they blocked the old mobile interface…)
They’re going to block NSFW for apps that use their new paid API too, last I heard. Which makes no sense but there you go. >.>
And yeah I suspect old reddit’s days are numbered on desktop too.
Yes, removing NSFW from API was part of the initial announcement.
Today during the AMA, somebody asked about it and the CEO’s reply was that because NSFW carries potential legal risk it was pulled from the API but would still be on reddit itself. Which is an answer that makes absolutely no sense.
Pretty clear the real intention was to make sure any apps that didn’t die from being priced out would be lacking the horny content that brings people to the site.
I’m gonna stay on my 3rd party app until the June 30 midnight close… I want to try and witness one of the biggest tech crashes in modern history.
I really think reddit hubris has massively underestimated the user loss they’re about to feel.
FUCK Em’!… (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
You overestimate how many people use third-party apps. They are the (very) vocal minority. They may represent a majority of the content submitted, but there’s an arbitrary number of web users who don’t have an account (hi) in addition to all the casual users who just use the app.
I don’t think this is the death of Reddit, but I do think it’s the dumbing down of Reddit. A lot of the power users that spend all day interacting and posting are going to be the ones leaving. Reddit will turn from a social community back into a simple link aggregator with people posting articles and having the same discussions over and over again in the comments.
That’s basically what it is already on many of the largest subs. Hell they even recycle/repost the same content every 6 months or so
I swear askreddit’s questions are automated at this point.
I had a realization last night.
Used to spend a lot of time on reddit on ttrpg subreddits reading about how other people were running their games instead of working on my own campaigns. Now, a lot of the time I would have spent reading about how someone else was doing the thing I wanted to, I’m just doing it. The dynamic is inverted.
This is what healing looks like.
I still don’t understand how everything works here but I love the positivity I see !
There was a news story that just broke, and I’ll admit I briefly hopped over to an r/ sub to eat popcorn and watch the reactions unfold. Guilty pleasures are hard to break sometimes. Lol.
That aside, yeah, I agree. Have been spending way less time over there where it’s like trying to have a discussion in a crowded cafeteria / auction house. Everything here is just more chill.
I went to Reddit today… also, and deleted my account. :)
I don’t expect Lenny/Beehaw etc to ever get as big as Reddit, and to be honest that’s probably for the best.
Yeah, that’s the thing… I think back to some of the communities I used to be a part of decades ago, and the size of them… I miss those communities. I’m ready to return to a smaller internet.
I’ve curated my subreddits pretty well, so I will miss some of them if they don’t move over here or someplace similar. But there’s enough going on that I think it will not be too bad.
That’s my biggest concern as well. I mean, I have no loyalty to reddit as a platform, but it does have vibrant communities for the numerous (and often niche) things that I am interested in. So divorcing myself from reddit almost entirely will be… difficult, but frankly, the platform has been going to shit for a while now and a kick in the butt to leave was sorely needed.
And based on your profile banner, looks like we share one of those communities: FFXIV :)
Haven’t stopped using reddit, tbh. But my usage has noticeably dropped - haven’t even commented on a single thing but one after installing Jerboa. Having an alternative really does help. I’m confident I can completely stop redditing on mobile by the end of the month as long as this community stays active.
I think I’m going to still use reddit to solve certain problems when googling. It’s still a good resource for solving specific problems. Just won’t spend any browsing time there. Just in an out.
Same here, for porn only.
Same here, Google has slowly become unusable for certain topics if you don’t append “reddit” to your search.
It’s way too hard to cut through the search engine optimized spam when googling something now. Especially for product recommendations all you get are random top X lists.
I just joined beehaw myself (was fumbling around on mastodon for a while but to me it feels too much like a twitter clone). So far I’m really enjoying the genuine interactions on here. Very much has an old reddit vibe that hopefully will survive even with the upcoming mass migration!
I completely agree. It feels a lot like reddit did when I joined over a decade ago.
I just got onto Lemmy and managed to join a server but am way out of my depth on using it… Is there a helpful summary somewhere?
This link posted there seems concerning. Any individual instance can issue a federal ban? https://lemmy.pineapplemachine.com/post/5781
I believe it’s ban logs that are federated, not the bans themselves, but I don’t have any proof. Could someone running a personal instance test this by banning a remote user and see if they can still interact with other remote instances?
Note that if a user is banned by their home instance, it’s expected that they can’t interact with any remote instance either, as all of their posts will pass through their home instance first.
If Beehaw bans from the site someone that is on a remote instance, that account can no longer interact with any Beehaw communities. If Beehaw bans from the community someone that is on a remote instance, that account can no longer interact in that community.
That makes sense, but I think what Smoke assumes from the federated mod logs is that if Beehaw bans me (a remote user) from beehaw.org and the ban message federates over to my home instance feddit.dk and lemmy.ml, I will be banned from feddit.dk and lemmy.ml as well. While it’s unlikely that bans can federate between instances, I don’t have any proof of this.
